Linux-Misc Digest #492, Volume #21 Sat, 21 Aug 99 21:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: More kind words from M$. (Paul Thompson)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Pas Moi)
Re: Linux on a 286 (Michael McConnell)
Editing the KDE GUI. (-~=Darek M=~-)
Re: Which POP3 Server? (Lynn Morrison)
Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor (Rob Mason)
Re: 3com ISA cards and linux (Robert Heller)
getting gcc to work ("Bruce A. Wade")
Re: copying a file over the network (rcp) (Konrad Hambrick)
getting gcc to work ("Bruce A. Wade")
Re: complete freeze with RH6 (Henrik Carlqvist)
Problem in Calling a Perl Script from a Bash Script (sky)
Mandrake PPP question... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Real player G2 installed but? (Carl Fink)
Procmail/Fetchmail/Qmail
Re: Upgraded Processor (David Frantz)
Re: Looking for sound module (Richard Atterer)
Re: Diskette Longevity (Robert Heller)
Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs... (Mike Trettel)
Re: LILO for the Linux newbie. . . (Leonard Evens)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Thompson)
Subject: Re: More kind words from M$.
Date: 21 Aug 1999 22:58:00 GMT
It would be a rather amusing exercise to create a script to convert
MICROSO~1 press releases into Windows filename gibberish....
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:13:46 -0400, Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >Mindspring News wrote in message <7pdve2$6in$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >>
>> >>He's just an AOL employee posing as a microsoft developer to further AOL's
>> >>insidious purposes. He used the words "unpleasantly" and "experienced". A
>> >>real microsoft programmer can't use words more than 8 letters in length ;)
>> >
>> >Hah! I like that.
>>
>> He can cheat by dropping a few vowels and using a three letter extension.
>> If he or she has space left over, they might even throw in the digits
>> '32'. Thus
>>
>> unpleasantly
>>
>> can be quite succinctly expressed as
>>
>> unplsn32.tly
>
>
> Alternatively, he can say
>
> unplea~1 . unpleasa. ntly .
>
> and expect you to ignore the first word and concatenate the next two,
> dropping the empty extensions (spaces) and dots.
>
> He could also insist that you upgrade to Microsoft Language Centre 4.0
> and convert all your paper to NTPaper. You'll then have to run Microsoft
> Proof Read to find the errors that the conversion caused (you won't be
> able to fix the errors, but can't avoid the test anyway).
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:03:05 GMT
>> "EO" == Eugene O'Neil wrote on Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:08:54 GMT:
EO> In article <7otf9j$3hu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
EO> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> If someone chooses to stop working why should he/she get money.
>> Because they're human beings? Because they deserve dignity? Because
>> they *should* have the choice to stop working instead of being
>> compelled by the threat of starvation to whore themselves?! Ahhh,
>> but none of these things are *you* concern, are they??
EO> Wow! I have seen the light! I used to think I should work for a
EO> living, but now I want to let someone else work extra hard so I
EO> can spend the rest of my life drinking beer and watching
EO> TV. That's the sort of dignified lifestyle every human being
EO> deserves! Uh, except the poor saps who will have to pay for
EO> it. They'll still have to work, I guess.
i think you've missed the point here. i doubt that mr. kulisz
believes that there is no need for labour; it's more likely the
element of compulsion (threat of starvation) rather than work itself
to which he objects. he would probably argue that people should work
for other reasons.
i agree.
ciao,
g.y.
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Guy Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [remove noise]
YOW!! Now I understand advanced MICROBIOLOGY and th' new TAX REFORM
laws!!
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a 286
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:20:59 +0100
On 20 Aug 1999, William Burrow wrote:
> On 19 Aug 1999 16:58:22 -0700,
> Noah Roberts (jik-) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have heard this is possible, but I am at a loss of were to start
> >looking. I checked www.linux.org a bit. I know this is not possible
> >with the normal setup, but I have heard it is *possible* and I want to
> >know how. A freind brought over a 286 laptop and wants Linux on it.
>
> Search for ELKS. It is not Linux, it is a subset of Linux intended for
> 8086 and 286 CPUs.
Can't do much atm. No networking etc ...and no support for EMS RAM. Dunno
about XMS (under DOS) RAM. Current version: 0.0.78 ...
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell
Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
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Eridani: Your PC doesn't need Windows or Gates.
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From: -~=Darek M=~- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Editing the KDE GUI.
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:07:56 -0700
After installing redhat 6 the first xWin I used was GNOME
and I really liked it for its ability to add various
applets anywhere on the desktop. Like a CPU load applet,
the cool looking clock, modem lights, etc.
After GNOME kept freezing up at the start and taking 5 to
10 minutes to load, I decided to go with KDE but havent
found a way to add a different clock, modem lights or other
applets to the menu bar. Is there any way to accomplish
this? I also accidentaly removed the likt to the terminal
from the bottom toolbar and would like to put it back
there, rather than having a shortcut on the desktop.
Thanx.
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From: Lynn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Which POP3 Server?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 03:32:34 GMT
tomislav wrote:
> A POP3 server comes with Redhat 6.0. It is in the IMAP rpm package. Just
> uncomment the pop3 line in inetd.conf and it's ready to go. No
> configuring needed.
This is not quite true, by default,it will not relay nor accept any connections.
in.popd also refuses to operate by default... Alot of setup is required
Bye,
Lynn
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From: Rob Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
Subject: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:31:13 +0100
Has anyone else experienced a system freeze with this processor on RH6.0
???
Since upgrading my machine I have been trying to fathom problems where
my system locks up - no error message, nothing. This usually occurs
during X sessions when I'm performing a large disk operation (copying a
70 Meg file).
I've seen other similar reports, and this processor seems to be the
common factor.
Can anyone confirm this ?
- Rob
(remove spam deterrent from E-Mail address)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:07:39 GMT
"Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:50:05 +0200, wrote :
"> Toni Grass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
"> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
"> > Kalkas wrote:
"> > >
"> > > I have been seriously thinking to use Linux and stop using Windows 98. I
"> am
"> > > fascinated by Linux's stability and security.
"> > >
"> > > Therefore, I have seriously planing to install Linux and USE IT.
"> > >
"> > > However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux, since I
"> use
"> > > cable modem with a 3com ISA card. More precisely, I use 3com EtherLink
"> III
"> > > ISA (3C509/3C509b) network interface card, and there are no drivers
"> which
"> > > will support my card in Linux.
"> > >
"> > > Did someone else have similar problems?
"> > >
"> >
"> > This card is definitely supported by Linux!! I used the same NIC
"> > together with a cable modem. The only problem is plug&punish - you will
"> > have to switch it off.
"> >
"> > regards
"> > Toni
">
"> Toni,
">
"> That was good news indeed:))
">
"> How shall I get those drivers? I have been at the 3com site, but they do not
"> mention Linux; I plan to phone them directly.
">
"> How did you get your drivers?
">
"> Regards,
"> Kalkas
The driver is included with all of the Linux distributions. You don't
need to get the driver from anywhere. Just install Linux and when
asked, tell the install script you have a 3C509 EtherNet card and fill
in the configuration magic and you are all set.
The drivers *won't* be on the 3Com -- 3Com does not maintain these
drivers, most of the 3Com NIC drivers are maintained by Donald Becker at
NASA.
">
">
">
">
">
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From: "Bruce A. Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: getting gcc to work
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:11:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just installed Linux (RH6) successfully. A short program to test
gcc returns an error that ld can't find the file crt1.o
(This file is missing, as find tells me). Should it be somewhere?
If so, what do I do?
Thanks for the help!
(e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Konrad Hambrick)
Subject: Re: copying a file over the network (rcp)
Date: 21 Aug 1999 22:37:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bob Koss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I can telnet, ftp, and rsh into my RH5.1 desktop from my laptop.
>
>But when I try to rcp a file, I get 'permission denied'. Any ideas
>where to look?
>
>Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Object Mentor, Inc. | Tel: (800) 338-6716
>Senior Consultant | 14619 N Somerset Cr | Fax: (847) 918-1023
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Green Oaks IL 60048 | www.objectmentor.com
Bob --
Check /etc/hosts.equiv, /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny.
( man rsh, rcp ; man 5 hosts_access )
OTOH, do also check out rsync, brought to you by the authors of
SAMBA ( www.samba.org ).
HTH.
-- kjh
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From: "Bruce A. Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getting gcc to work
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:11:10 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just installed Linux (RH6) successfully. A short program to test
gcc returns an error that ld can't find the file crt1.o
(This file is missing, as find tells me). Should it be somewhere?
If so, what do I do?
Thanks for the help!
(e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
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********************************************************************************
Bruce A. Wade, Associate Professor, Department of Mathematical Sciences,
University of Wisconsin- Milwaukee, PO Box 413, Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413
(414) 229-5103, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WWW: www.math.uwm.edu, Amateur
Radio: N9UR
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: complete freeze with RH6
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:42:08 +0200
Nicholas R LeRoy wrote:
> For me, all my crashes happen while
> XScreenSaver hacks are running, and the X server is crunching...
> Does anybody have any suggestions?
I haven't seen the problem myself, but as it happens with recent
distributions running different kernels and different window-managers I
would guess that the X-server might be causing the trouble. As X is run
setuid it has the possibility to crash a machine even on a machine with
a bug-free kernel.
Are you all running the same X-server? Try to switch to another one,
VGA16 instead of SVGA or maybe to an older version of XFree86. If this
helps there is some bug-hunting in XFree86 to do.
regards Henrik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sky)
Subject: Problem in Calling a Perl Script from a Bash Script
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:56:27 GMT
Hello,
I don't know if this is the right group, but probably someone knows...
I wan't to call a perl function I wrote out of a bash script. So I
call it like this inside my bash script
perl myfunc.pl "This is a Parameter I like to pass"
Inside of myfunc.pl I take the Parameter out of this:
$message = @ARGV[1];
The String doesn't make it to the function, does anybody know why?
Actually an Empty Parameter is passed.
Calling it directly from my telnet prompt the Parameter reaches the
Function.
Could somebody please help me?
Thanks alot!
Please answer to (or CC: to) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Mandrake PPP question...
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:41:57 +0059
Okay I seem to have this small problem...
When I was running Rehdat 6.0, I had problems with both eznet & kppp to do with
modem permissions ( I think).
I got around this using Usernet.
However, with Mandrake to date, Usernet lets me initiate a connection - It just
won't close it.
Any ideas? Failing that, any on how to get eznet to work for a non-root user?
TIA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Real player G2 installed but?
Date: 21 Aug 1999 01:44:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:50:14 -0500 William Burkett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul wrote:
>
>> I installed Real player but don`t seem to be able to run the program,
>> and don`t seem to be able to find where it is on my system!
>> If i try to re-install i get the message "program already installed!
>> How can i find it??
>> Paul
>
>What method did you use to install it? I'm guessing by your message
>that you used something like an rpm or deb package. If so, the binary
>is probably in /usr/bin/. The name of the executable is rvplayer, at
>least for version 5.0. Type "which rvplayer" at the command line. If
>it doesn't find it, then it means rvplayer is not in a directory that's
>listed in your PATH. If which doesn't work, try locate or find.deb, the
>shared lib, then update .bash_profile or whatever config file you use to
>include the directory in your PATH.
Pardon the long quote.
To Paul: type
locate realplay
which, as William had no way to know, is the name of the executable in
RealPlayer G2 for Linux. The locate program (if it's installed) is very
fast and will tell you the location of any file on your system more than 24
hours old.
If that doesn't work, then
find / -name realplay -print
will work, assuming the program is really installed.
--
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"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Procmail/Fetchmail/Qmail
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:58:38 -0400
Hi,
I have a couple of pop accounts on different servers. I'd like to use
fetchmail to download my mail, and procmail to sort it into different
folders for each account. I'm using mutt to read my mail. I've
written a .fetchmailrc file and a .procmailrc file, but they didn't
work. Here they are:
--- ~/.fetchmailrc:
poll garnet.acns.fsu.edu protocol pop3:
username pbg1854
password mypassword
mda "/usr/bin/procmail ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] -d %T"
poll xi.cs.fsu.edu protocol pop3:
username gavin
password mypassword2
mda "/usr/bin/procmail ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] -d %T"
--- end
--- ~[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PATH="/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin"
MAILDIR="$[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
DEFAULT="$MAILDIR/mbox"
LOGFILE="$MAILDIR/log"
--- end
--- ~[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PATH="/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin"
MAILDIR="$[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
DEFAULT="$MAILDIR/mbox"
LOGFILE="$MAILDIR/log"
--- end
Thus, mail downloaded from my account on garnet.acns.fsu.edu will be
put in ~[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mbox, and mail from
xi.cs.fsu.edu will be put into ~[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mbox.
Eventually, I would like to put mail from mailing lists into
~/Mail/<account-email-address>/<listname>/mbox, but once I get this
basic setup working, I'll be able to do that myself. I think I've got
this right, but when I try to read my mail using mutt, mutt tells me
(essentially) that it can't read the mailbox file.
Could someone help me out?
Thanks,
Peter Gavin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: David Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,msn.computingcentral.os.linux
Subject: Re: Upgraded Processor
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:54:14 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jerry Gardner wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:30:26 -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> >Hello,
> >I was running Redhat 6.0 on a Pentium 133 with 32 megs of ram. I just
> >upgraded the motherboard and installed a Pentium II 350. I installed 64
> >megs of ram on this motherboard. I was wondering, now that I am running a
> >Pentium II, should I recompile my programs and/or the kernel? Will I see
> >more of an increase with the programs recompiled?
>
> You can recompile the kernel and other apps using the 686 processor
> type, but you won't really see much, if any difference in performance.
>
That answer should really be qualified. You may not see much of a
difference on many of the applications that cam with your original
distribution, but some are improved by recompiling targeting the 686.
The other issue is that there are now "new and improved" compilers available
for use, such as GCC 2.95, which is a much improved compiler. It may well
be worth the effort to see just what this compiler does for the code. GCC
until very recently did very little to optimize specifically for the 686.
Finally GCC 2.95 has a vastly improved C++ compiler, anything written in C++
could benefit.
One thing to consider is interpeters. If you use such things as Python,
TCL, BASH, or anything else a recompile may be very helpful. Personally I
recompiled my Python installation and got excellent results. Never timed
anything but some scripts were noticeable faster. This is on the same class
machine you mentioned. Be aware that depending on your usage you may see
nothing in the way of an improvement.
So i guess the key is to chose wisely which programs to recompile and not to
waste time on lesser stuff. You might want to take heart in the fact that
Redhat make thier kernels available in 386, 586 & 686 versions, so there must
be some benefit. Before throwing your kernel at the new compilers take note
that there are issues with different optimization.
Best of luck.
Dave
>
> --
> Jerry Gardner | "Bill Clinton has all the steely resolve
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | of a kamakaze pilot on his 37th mission."
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From: Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Looking for sound module
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:58:26 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tirado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I´m trying to configure my computer for sound. I need the module
> opl3sa2.o which is one of the drivers for my sound card. Does anyone
> knows where can I get it? (or all the modules for kernel 2.0.36).
The OPL3 driver comes with the kernel. 'make xconfig', go to the sound
subsection, and enable it like this:
y sound card support
y OSS sound modules
y persistent DMA buffers (recommended!)
m generic OPL2/3 support
m Microsoft Sound System support
m Support for Yamaha OPL3-SA...
m FM synth (YM3812/OPL3) support
Compile the kernel as described in the READMEs. In particular, don't
forget 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'.
Once you know the IRQ and DMAs that your soundchip uses (if you're
lucky, you can set them up in the BIOS, otherwise try 'man isapnp'), add
this to your /etc/conf.modules:
alias sound opl3sa2
pre-install opl3sa2 modprobe "-k" "ad1848"
post-install opl3sa2 modprobe "-k" "opl3"
options opl3sa2 io=????? mss_io=????? mpu_io=????? irq=? dma=? dma2=?
options opl3 io=?????
See 'Documentation/sound/OPL3-SA2' in the kernel sources for more info.
Cheers,
Richard
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diskette Longevity
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:15:39 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Petty),
In a message on Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:52:22 GMT, wrote :
RP> In article <7pejko$2t4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RP>
RP> >Hello. I've been using the same floppy disk for the past two
RP> >months, popping it in and out of my drives several times a day
RP> >and transporting nearly everyday.
RP> >
RP> >Yesterday, I couldn't mount the disk because of some bad sector.
RP> >(don't remember the error.) So my guess is the diskette just wore out.
RP> >Fortunately, I still have my stuff on my hard drive.
RP> >
RP> >Now my question is:
RP> >
RP> >1. how long do floppy 1.2MB diskettes last?
RP> >2. Are zip drives more robust?
RP> >3. If a disk has a few bad sectors, is there anyway to recover what
RP> > might be left on the good sectors? (Perhaps none of my data fell
RP> > on the bad sectors) That is, is there some sort of Norton's
RP> > Utilities for Linux?
RP>
RP>
RP> I don't trust floppy disks anywhere near as far as I can throw them.
HD (1.44meg) floppies are crap -- good for 2-3 uses and then trashed.
2D (720K) floppies are rather better. If you make a boot/rescue set,
get one of those little plastic boxes (that hold 2-3 floppies) for them
to protect them from environmental hazards -- dust, handling, etc. Also
try to get floppies with the plastic 'envelope' -- this also help to protect
the floppies.
RP>
RP> Floppies are only a little more reliable than cassette tape recorders for
RP> storing data and not a whole lot faster.
RP>
RP> Steve Jobs was right, in spite of all the Wintel complaining, to drop
RP> floppies drives from Macs. Anything is better than floppies, and all those
RP> iMac buyers (close to 2-million this year) seem to be doing nicely without
RP> them.
RP>
RP> Maybe there's something to learn there...
RP>
RP> When a floppy goes bad, TRASH IT! Like a dog that has bitten, it can NEVER
RP> be trusted again.
Yep. I use Zip disks for all transport. Note: I 'reformat' them to
e2fs to get a better, more secure file system that won't become
fragmented.
RP>
RP> Well, that's my rant.
RP>
RP> --Richard
RP> (who's lost files on floppies)
RP>
RP> --
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RP>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Trettel)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs...
Reply-To: Y'all have to fix this@nowhere
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:54:52 GMT
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:34:21 +0100, Wine Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Zephyr Q wrote:
>>
>> I've been using OS/2 for years, and am switching to Linux
>> (don't ask why yet, that is a different post). In the past,
>> I have been **very** happy with the rock solid performance
>> of HPFS and, seeing several comments about problems with
>>
>> How does Linux's security at this level compare with HPFS
>> (i.e.--if I get a hard drive from a stranger with ext2fs on
>> it, and I wipe it, is the info unrecoverable by experts? I
>> know it sounds like a strange question, but I occasionally
>> find HDs at auctions and clearing houses and like to be able
>> to know I can clean them...)?
>>
>
>__Nothing__ is that secure. The real specialists can read what you wrote
>to a disk
>even if you have overwritten it 10 times. The anti-piracy people dig
>hard in this
>area.
>
>
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> Oracle development & database administration
This is exactly why when I pick up surplus government computers (which are
so plentiful around here) the hard drives are removed. It's much easier
to simply remove the hard drive, crush it, and burn it (literally) than to
try to wipe it clean.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO for the Linux newbie. . .
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:49:22 -0500
Josh Washburne wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I'm completely new to Linux. Infact, I'm 15 years old and my father
> helped me through a Linux install to my own machine. We have a small
> problem though. Linux will not boot unless we put in the boot disk.
> Here's the bio. . .
>
> I have:
>
> 1 = IDE Hard Drive ~1.2 gig
> 2 = SCSI Hard Drives ~2.0 gig
>
> The 2 SCSI drives are connected to a Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card. The
> IDE HD and one SCSI HD is used for Win95 (ick!). The other SCSI is for
> Linux. The SB16 SCSI-2 board DOES NOT have a boot prom, so we found a
> line we could enter into LILO to find the SCSI-2 controller and boot off
> the second drive. This line was:
>
> aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1
>
> These were the right settings for the built-in controller and it found
> both drives. So we made the second SCSI drive a "Linux native" and we
> also made .2 of the IDE HD as "Linux swap". Everything was going well,
> we installed everything, set up which protocals to run, etc. Then, I
> forgot to set up Win95 as the thing to boot up first instead of Linux.
> (sorry...I'm only native to Win95 for now.) So we rebooted the machine
> and when LILO printed on the screen, all of a sudden, all these "BB"s
> were popping up on the screen and kept going and it wouldn't stop until
> we used Ctrl-Alt-Del. The only way to get into Linux is to use a boot
> disk. Any suggestions to a Linux newbie?????? Please respond! Not
> knowing the problem is very painful :-) Thanks!
>
> Josh Washburne
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not sure I followed all you said, and even so, I'm not sure
I can suggest how to deal with your configuration which seems
quite involved. My conjecture would be that you somehow messed
up lilo.conf. It is also possible you have some problem with
the specification of the active partition.
You should let us know the following.
What does
fdisk -l
show for your partitions?
What is in /etc/lilo.conf?
Just what happens when you try to boot from the hard disk?
Usually if lilo is messed up, you get something like L or LI
and it hangs. From what you say, it is possible lilo is somehow
going off in LaLa land on the disk and trying to find a kernel
to boot. I can't imagine how you could have run lilo successfully
if the lilo.conf is complete nonsense, but something is clearly
wrong.
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Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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