Linux-Misc Digest #354, Volume #24 Wed, 3 May 00 20:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: newbie question (Leonard Evens)
Re: Linux hangs (Leonard Evens)
Re: Linux Boot seqence? (Leonard Evens)
oldest linux box? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
TV tuner and capture? (Ben Pearre)
Re: Restricting Telnet Access (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: oldest linux box? (Sam E. Trenholme)
Large HD problem (20 gig Fujitsu) (Atle)
Re: Tape Backup Parameters (Leslie Mikesell)
LILO doesn't like my 10G hard drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LILO doesn't like my 10G hard drive ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: SCSI Ultra2 support
tty_io.c used obsolete /dev/cua1... (Chat d'Goutière)
Re: oldest linux box? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: ISDN while writing a CD (Bastian)
Re: mp3 decoder (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Software Automation Tool. ("Lilia")
Internet connection (Mike Murphy)
Re: ScreenSaver for login screen (Steve)
Re: Distributed file system (Steve)
Most used Aps ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:31:07 -0500
SIMO MOARI wrote:
>
> hi there,
> i've installed redhat 6.1 and i can connect thru' dhcp and browse
> the internet. i've one question to ask may be silly, i want to put icons in
> the desktop, how do i do that and is there any good website that are useful
> for newbie users like me. i'm running kde desktop.
>
> thanx in advance.
>
> joe
KDE has a fairly extensive help browser. I suggest you start
with that.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux hangs
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:30:05 -0500
Rafael wrote:
>
> My Linux (Red Hat 6.2 and 6.1) hangs. I run on the same computer
> Windows 98 and it works without hangings. I would like use only Linux
> on this computer but I can't. It hangs (freeze), the reset button could
> not restart computer (black screen). I have to turn power of. Please
> help me. What could be the reason.
> I have:
> AMD K6-3 400 Mhz running on 100Mhz bus ( 4x100)
> S3 868 (2Mb) graphic PCI card
> 128 Mb Ram ( 2x64 Mb)
> HD IBM GXP 27GB ( Linux on hda2 (boot- below 1024) and hda6 and swap on
> hda7)
> Screen Nokia 447M
>
> Please send answer to my email too
>
> Rafael
Can you be more explicit about the circumstances under which it
hangs?
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Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Boot seqence?
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:40:26 -0500
hhk wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I know that when win98 boots, it will first run
> 1) Autoexec.bat, config.sys
> 2) Win.ini, System.ini
> 3) read Registry
>
> How about linux? When will the following files run ? ... eg)
> linuxconf, inittab, ??? Is there any site which can give me more
> information on this or any HOWTO documents?
>
> Thanks all.
>
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The RedHat Reference Guide has a chapter on the boot sequence.
www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.2-Manual/ref-guide
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Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: oldest linux box?
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 22:21:13 GMT
Just curious, what's the oldest linux box that folks have these days?
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pearre)
Subject: TV tuner and capture?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 03 May 2000 22:37:18 GMT
I need to capture about 20 minutes (say) of video to my disk. I know that
video eats hard disks faster than they can be produced, but I want to use
as little space as possible. What's a good format to record as? How do I
do this? I understand that mpeg requires hardware support. Can this be
done under Linux? xawtv only does AVI, bcast2000 does quicktime and
mjpeg, all of which are, well, huge. What does it take to record as, say,
an mpeg? Pointers to HOWTOs that I obviously haven't seen would also be
appreciated, of course...
Thanks!
-Ben
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Restricting Telnet Access
Date: 3 May 2000 15:46:36 -0700
[The person asked in private mail about this chroot() stuff. Here was the
reply I mailed him.]
You have to know how to code in C. Basically, the non-technical answer to
this is "It is possible to do, but a real pain in the ass". To do:
* Write the C program
* Compile it
* Move a.out to something like /usr/local/bin/restrict_access
* Change his login shell (the program that runs when he logs in) to the
compiled C program in question, with something like:
chsh username -s /usr/local/bin/restrict_access
The C program will look something like:
main()
{
chroot("/home/user"); /* Change the root directory */
seteuid(getuid()); /* Drop root privledges */
execl("/bin/bash"); /* Go in to bash */
}
And you will need to set up his system to have /bin, /lib, and some of
/etc in his home directory. Once you change root, you need to have a
working copy of the system for him to play in, since you can't access the
real system any more.
- Sam
[I forget to mention in the email that restrict_access needs to be root
suid. Oh well]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: oldest linux box?
Date: 3 May 2000 15:54:34 -0700
> Just curious, what's the oldest linux box that folks have these days?
Huh? If I read this right, the answer would be that 386 Linus bought and
developed Linux on.
As fas as I am concerned, there is no point in keeping the physical
hardware that older version of Linux run on. The 386 I first put Linux on
became a 486, and I finally gave the motherboard to my roomate a few years
back. The video card that particular beast got when it became a 486 is
still around, and is in one of my two web/email servers--I forget which
one. The case that beast was in is, as of a year ago, at a friend's
house, with a completely new motherboard/etc. inside of it.
On the other hand, I do collect old and obselete CDROMs of Linux. I have
versions of Linux going back to Slackware 2.2.3 (or so) on CD, and some
form of Redhat from 1.X up. Anyone else remember the a.out-vs-elf issues?
- Sam (Who would love to have a CDROM snapshot of Linux as it existed in
1992 or 1993)
--
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From: Atle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Large HD problem (20 gig Fujitsu)
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 00:56:20 +0200
I've just aquired a new 20 Gig Fujistu hard drive. It's partioned (I've
tried severeal configurations with different sizes on different parts of
the drive) and I've run mkfs.
The problem shows itself when I'm trying to copy, usually large but
sometimes on small files and not always on the same file, files using
the cp command.
The error message is:
cp: somefile: Input/output error
Some system info:
SuSE 6.4.
> cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.2.12 (root@mybox) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66
19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #3 SMP Fri Oct 1 20:43:32 CEST
1999
from dmesg:
hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL EX6.4A, 6149MB w/418kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63, UDMA
hdc: FUJITSU MPE3204AH, 19540MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=39701/16/63, UDMA
hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache
hdc is of course the problem drive... it seems fine with other OS's
(BeOS)
In the bios it is set up with auto-detection and type LBA.
Info from fdisk:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 2 526 4217062+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2 527 1036 4096575 eb BeOS fs
/dev/hdc3 1037 1069 265072+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdc4 1070 2491 11422215 83 Linux
extractions from /var/log/messages:
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: dev 08:01 blksize=1024 blocknr=23498852
sector=46997704 size=1024 count=1
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: 08:01: rw=0, want=1141215749,
limit=4096543
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: dev 08:01 blksize=1024 blocknr=1141215748
sector=-2012535800 size=1024 count=1
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: 08:01: rw=0, want=23498853, limit=4096543
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: dev 08:01 blksize=1024 blocknr=23498852
sector=46997704 size=1024 count=1
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
May 2 23:37:41 mybox kernel: 08:01: rw=0, want=1141215749,
limit=4096543
Notice the negative numbers!
The disk has passed surface tests.
Does anyone know what the problem is and how I can fix it?
Do I need a kernel upgrade?
Atle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Tape Backup Parameters
Date: 3 May 2000 17:55:42 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Kerry Cox wrote:
>>
>> Kerry Cox wrote:
>> >
>> > Martin Sanborn wrote:
>> > > dump -u0f /dev/nht0 -b 64 -B 2000000 / && dump -u0f /dev/nht0 -b 64 -B
>> > > 2000000 /usr && dump -u0f /dev/nht0 -b 64 -B 200000 /home
>> > >
>> > > Now let's say you've accidentally deleted files on /usr. To restore, cd to
>> > > /usr and type
>> > >
>> > > restore -i -s 2 -f /dev/nht0
>> > >
>> >
>> > Martin and others,
>> > I found your comments very helpful. Thanks. I was finally able to get
>> > multiple partitions to be backed up on one tape. However, restoring
>> > them has been a problem, so I may not have actually backed them up
>> > correctly.
>> > I have four partitions on a server that I am backing up; /, /usr, /home
>> > and /usr/local in that order.
>> > Here is how I back up those systems based on your suggestions.
>> >
>> > /sbin/dump -u0f /dev/st1 -b 64 -B 4000000 -L "/" /dev/hda1 && /sbin/dump
>> > -0uf /dev/st1 -b 64 -B 4000000 -L "/home" /dev/hda6 && /sbin/dump -0uf
>> > /dev/st1 -b 64 -B 4000000 -L "/usr" /dev/hda7 && /sbin/dump -0uf
>> > /dev/st1 -b 64 -B 4000000 -L "/usr/local" /dev/hda5
>> >
>> > Then when I do a restore
>> >
>> > restore -b 4000000 -s 1 -f /dev/st1
>> > restore -i -s 1 -f /dev/st1
>> > restore -i -s 2 -f /dev/st1
>> >
>> > None of thse options work. All I ever see is the /usr/local partition
>> > which is the last partition I back up. This leads me to believe that the
>> > last backup overwites all the previous backups.
>> > I am using the very latest dump rpm, dump-0.4b15-1, running on a Red Hat
>> > 6.1 machine using a HP JetStore 6000 with DDS-2 tapes that hold 4 GBs
>> > uncompressed.
>> > I would be interested in any comments on getting this to work. I am
>> > assuming based on my experience with ufsdump under Solaris that there is
>> > a no-rewind option. I have looked through all the books but cannot find
>> > anything like this for Linux.
>> > Thanks.
>> > KJ
>
>
>The no-rewind or /dev/nst1 option does not work under Linux using this
>dump command. Any ideas?
/dev/nst0 is the first drive, /dev/nst1 would be the 2nd tape drive.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: LILO doesn't like my 10G hard drive
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 22:47:23 GMT
I'm a semi-newbie to RedHat Linux - I installed it once a couple of
years ago, back when my hard drive was too small to matter. I tried
again a few days ago with RedHat 6.2 Linux. This time it was going
onto a 10G drive, which is the slave drive on the first IDE cable (the
master drive is for Win95 - this'll be a dual boot system).
The machine itself is a circa-1996 Gateway P-166.
After reading the Large Hard Drive HOWTO, but before installing Linux,
I went into my BIOS and disabled the auto-HDD-recognition feature of my
BIOS for the 10G drive. When I installed Linux, it correctly
identified the geometry and size of the 10G drive and installed without
a hitch.
Problem is, when the computer starts, it beeps, and starts
displaying "01 01 01 01 01 01 01..." non-stop. The only way I can
successfully boot is off the Linux boot disk RedHat prompted me to make
during the installation process. (to boot into Windows, I had to
FDISK /MBR).
I read that there was a newer version of LILO than what came with
RedHat 6.2, so I downloaded, compiled, and installed it. I added the
directive "lba32" to my /etc/lilo.conf file. (as suggested by
http://www.deja.com/threadmsg_ct.xp?AN=610248036) However, that seemed
to make no difference.
In fact, the only variation I've gotten is if I go back to my bios and
re-enable the auto-HDD-detection for the 10G drive. When I restart the
computer, I get simply "LI", with nothing else.
Is my computer/BIOS too old to handle a drive this size? What are my
options (well, other than get a newer machine, and preferably other
than continue to boot off the floppy, though that DOES work...)
Thanks to anyone who can point me the right direction!
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO doesn't like my 10G hard drive
Date: 3 May 2000 23:13:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: After reading the Large Hard Drive HOWTO, but before installing Linux,
: I went into my BIOS and disabled the auto-HDD-recognition feature of my
: BIOS for the 10G drive. When I installed Linux, it correctly
: identified the geometry and size of the 10G drive and installed without
: a hitch.
: Problem is, when the computer starts, it beeps, and starts
: displaying "01 01 01 01 01 01 01..." non-stop. The only way I can
This is a bios error report. Odds are that your bios can't boot to the
10GB disk. Is it on the second controller?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI Ultra2 support
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 23:17:21 GMT
On 3 May 2000 14:35:10 -0700, Sam E. Trenholme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I haven't been able to get UltraWide disks to work on Ultra2 adapters
>>(adaptec). I get .5MB/sec write speeds, 6-7MB/sec read speed. The
>>cable is 2 feet long blue twisted with a LVD/SE terminator.
>
>Adaptec support for Linux is not the best because Adaptec, for the longest
>time, was anti-Linux and refused to give the needed information to Linux
>driver developers. They finally changed their mind, but not before the
>Buslogic/Mylex adapters had a chance to have much better Linux support.
>
>Also, Adaptec changes the card's interface in subtle ways with each new
>card, or even with different revisions of the same card, making drivers
>work poorly.
>
>>I am able to get Ultra2 disks working on the Ultra2 adpaters.
>
>Huh? I thought you just said you didn't.
I've used linux RH 6.1 and 6.2 w/ an old adaptec 2942 and their
latest'n'great ultra-2 chipset (integrated on a chaintech motherboard).
Both have performed flawlessly.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chat d'Goutière)
Subject: tty_io.c used obsolete /dev/cua1...
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 23:28:36 GMT
RedHat 6.0
Trying to connect to my ISP.
I have no graphic environment.
When I execute pppd, the connection goes only so far
and then I get disconnected AND the root session closes
on me.
The log file mentions this :
tty_io.c : used obsolete /dev/cua1 - update software to use /dev/ttyS1
Of course, since the modem dials out and gets to talk
to my ISP's RAS server, my com port has to be configured
right. But this error message makes me wonder.
I also get the same message when I use setserial on cua1.
Maybe the error message from the /var/log/messages
file has nothing to do with me losing the connection
and terminating the Linux session.
But if it did, I guess I need to update something here.
What? From where? How? are my questions.
Any comments, suggestions, ideas will be welcome.
Thanks.
Chat d'Goutière
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: oldest linux box?
Date: 3 May 2000 23:15:22 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Just curious, what's the oldest linux box that folks have these days?
I have a 386sx16 that sees very occasional service as a terminal.
I have several 486dx33s, and I am typing on a 486sx50 right now.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: ISDN while writing a CD
Date: 3 May 2000 23:29:42 GMT
On Wed, 03 May 2000 15:58:55 GMT, Bernie wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I've got a question and maybe a problem as well :-)
>
>I've installed a Sony CRX-140E CD-rewriter (ATAPI) and it works
>perfectly without any problems. I spotted cdrecord's fifo-display and I
>wondered how an internet connection would influence the writing process.
>
>So I simply pinged to a remote host to trigger my ippp interface. The
>strange thing was that I didn't get an answer from the remote host. I
>was able to ping the local network (through ethx) but there was
>absolutely no response from the internet (ipppx) during the writing
>process.
>
>I'm using a passive ISA Fritz Card on an PIII 500. Do I have a
>performance problem ? Would an active (B1) card do any better?
>
>Any idea ?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Bernie
I have similar problems: when I burn a CD, I can do "simple" connections,
like querying a POP3 server, but transfering larger pieces of data
(getting a mail from a POP3 server eg.) is impossible. It's just too
slow.
Bastian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: mp3 decoder
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 23:49:01 GMT
On Wed, 03 May 2000 11:29:57 GMT, illegal wrote:
>Anyone know of a good mp3 decoder. I have been unable to find a
>program that will convert mp3 files to wave files.
mp3blaster will save MP3 files in WAV format, as well as being a kickass
console MP3 player. (Playlist, random, etc..)
mp3blaster can be found at any of the better file distribution sites.
LinuxBerg (http://www.linuxberg.com), Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net)
--
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Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: "Lilia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software Automation Tool.
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:44:43 -0700
it's an emulator. it basically means a tool to automate the process of
testing an application. there is a manual and automated testing. and plenty
of packages for all OS except Linux. Winrunner (actually XRunner) by Mercury
Interactive is running on Unix. Another poduct LoadRunner can test Java apps
on Linux. But i'm looking for simply an automated software tool by third
party that will create a test scripts to test in-house application that is
run under Linux. thanks!
>What is an "automation testing tool"? Any unix code will run on linux!
>
>: tool available for testing application running on Linux (Gui-XWindows).
Our
>: company just moved from SCO to Redhat Linux (yeah !) and we want to move
>: from manual testing to automation tools, but i have no luck of finding
any
>
>What do you mean? Do you mean something that constructs test vectors
>from source code? That's generic theory-of-testing stuff, and will
>in any case be specific to the source code language used.
>
>Please explain yourself ..
>
>Peter
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From: Mike Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Internet connection
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 23:55:43 GMT
==============BD0B4FECC178C7333D088152
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have a new DSL high speed internet connection but I can't get it
working with Linux (RH 6.1)
I ran netconf. and entered the following
IP address 10.27.67.10
Netmask 255.255.255.0
Default gateway 10.27.67.254
Primary name server 142.177.1.2
but I can't get on the net with my browser, what else do I need to do?
==============BD0B4FECC178C7333D088152
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
I have a new DSL high speed internet connection but I can't get it working
with Linux (RH 6.1)
<br>I ran <b>netconf</b>. and entered the following
<br>IP
address
10.27.67.10
<br>Netmask
255.255.255.0
<br>Default gateway
10.27.67.254
<br>Primary name server 142.177.1.2
<br>but I can't get on the net with my browser, what else do I need to
do?</html>
==============BD0B4FECC178C7333D088152==
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: ScreenSaver for login screen
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4 May 2000 00:59:56 GMT
On Wed, 03 May 2000 08:19:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>My home computer which originaly had RedHat 6.1 on it. This seems to
>provide a screensaver for the login screen. And when I upgraded to RH6.2
>the screensaver was still there.
>
>My work computer originaly had RH6.0 on it which didn't have a
>screensaver for the login screen. When I upgraded to RH6.2 it still
>doesn't have a screensaver.
>
>So how do I turn on the screensaver for the login screen?
>
Soundl like it's something in one of your config files you
could do a grep screensaver * or */* or */*/* in /etc and
you might see where it is (on the machine on which the screensaver
is active). Then make the relevant changes to the other machine.
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Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
11:47pm up 7 days, 1:48, 3 users, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Distributed file system
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4 May 2000 00:59:57 GMT
On Wed, 03 May 2000 16:37:59 +0000, Random wrote:
>What are the "stable" Distributed file system that can be use under
>linux ?
See the file NFS-HOWTO in /usr/doc/HOWTO/ (on my distro). If you
don't have the HOWTOs on your machine they can be retreived from
the following locations and their mirrors.
* ftp.funet.fi : /pub/OS/Linux/doc/HOWTO
* tsx-11.mit.edu : /pub/linux/docs/HOWTO
* metalab.unc.edu : /pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
11:47pm up 7 days, 1:48, 3 users, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Most used Aps
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 23:54:25 GMT
Is there a place online where I can find out what
the most useful Linux applications are and
download them? RedHat and other companies sell
boxed sets with the most useful aps included, but
if you want to download them (lack of funds)
which aps can't I do without? I have been to
download.com, tucows.com and freshmeat.net but
haven't found a rating system for the most useful
software.
Any help here would be appreciated. Thanks.
-Aaron
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