Linux-Misc Digest #529, Volume #24               Fri, 19 May 00 20:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Can't get kickstart to work (Tom Combs)
  GnomeRPM Question 6.1 vs 6.2 packages and dload failures (Louis Gazave)
  Re: sendmail question ("Pat Crean")
  Re: sendmail question (David C.)
  Re: Corrupt ext2 file system (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Problems creating initial ramdisk (David Efflandt)
  Getting terminal to "power save" (using Redhat and Gnome) ("Dale Mosby")
  Re: Restoring LILO after reformatting 98 partition (David Efflandt)
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (brian moore)
  Making a distribution (tijmens)
  Polskie TrueType (Rafael)
  ntsysv  broken under RedHat6.2 ("Jay Beatty")
  Re: Getting terminal to "power save" (using Redhat and Gnome) (Matthew Haley)
  Re: Making a distribution (Matthew Haley)
  Re: Enlightenment 0.16.4 Upgrade Problem ... SOLVED ("Tom Hoffmann")
  Re: less core puts BASH in command mode?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Victor Wagner)
  Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise (Andrew Wong)
  My Corel Linux box doesn't shutdown (Nelson Lainez)
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
  Re: My Corel Linux box doesn't shutdown (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Getting terminal to "power save" (using Redhat and Gnome) (Robert Lynch)

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 19 May 2000 21:56:28 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 19 May 2000 14:54:20 -0500, 
: As for your list specifically: KDE is not in Debian as it is not
: compatible with the GPL.  What do you mean by 'server'?  Web?  Mail?

However, spiritually and emotionally speaking, it's a darn sight more in
debian than kde is in RH. There are also fine .deb's of KDE on KDE's site.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Combs)
Subject: Can't get kickstart to work
Date: 19 May 2000 21:50:33 GMT


Hello,

  I've installed RH 6.2 on a machine and created a ks.cfg file.  I've
  tried many combinations of copying this on to the boot floppy but
  nothing works ( booting with linux ks=floppy ).  I usually get
  errors from anaconda about getops  or something.

  Can someone please tell me how to get kickstart to work.  This is
  a networked machine but I'm not running bootp/dhcp, is that required
  to get the ks.cfg off of the net?


  All pointers greatly appreciated.

--
Tom Combs, Unix Systems Manager                E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
National High Magnetic Field Laboratory        Phone:  (850) 644-1657
1800 E. Paul Dirac Drive                       Tallahassee, FL 32310

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From: Louis Gazave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: GnomeRPM Question 6.1 vs 6.2 packages and dload failures
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 18:05:28 -0400

I am sure that this is a dumb question, but I can't seem to find the
answer in the online manuals.

Whenever I use the WEBFind feature of gnorpm, I see that the list of
packages for a particular application often has a version for redhat 6.1
as well as a later version for redhat 6.2.

I thought I had redhat 6.2, but it turns out that I have 6.1.  Can I
install the package associated with the redhat 6.2 version release.  I
have done it with a few apps so far and don't seem to be experiencing
any problem.

Also,  I am finding that Linux cannot ftp files over a certain size.
For instance, when ever I attempted to upgrade netscape from the 4.61 to
the 4.72 release, I found that gnorpm would always fail on the
netscape-common-dadada.rpm.  I tried using FTP directly and that failed
as well.  Finally, I attempted to download the other two packages
netscape-communicator-dadada.rpm and netscape-messenger and I didn't
have any problem.  I began to surmize that the issue might be that my
service provider was looking into the ftp request and limiting the size
of what I could download.  I was wrong.  I am running a dual boot
system, and when I booted to Win95 ugh, I was able to ftp the common.rpm
file with no problem.  Furthermore, I am having issues
upgrading(downloading) many other rpm packages such as the latest
python.

Help!!! any ideas


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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: sendmail question
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:31:22 -0400

It's a little easier to just hit ctl-D at the prompt.


"Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 19 May 2000 11:40:08 -0500, Kirk R. Wythers wrote:
> >How do I "safely quit out of the sendmail prompt (>) after running
> >sendmail -bt?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Kirk
>
> I went into another xterm and as root did kill -9 10759 (the pid of
> that invocation of sendmail).
>
> -9 tells it to save it's stuff first before exiting.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps.
>
> web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
>
> or  http://start.at/zero-pps
>
>   5:40pm  up 2 days,  1:45,  4 users,  load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: sendmail question
Date: 19 May 2000 18:09:04 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) writes:
> Kirk R. Wythers wrote:
>>
>> How do I "safely quit out of the sendmail prompt (>) after running
>> sendmail -bt?
> 
> I went into another xterm and as root did kill -9 10759 (the pid of
> that invocation of sendmail). 
> 
> -9 tells it to save it's stuff first before exiting. 

No.  -9 is the signal that tells UNIX to forcibly kill the process.
Programs can not trap or block -9, so Sendmail can not run any cleanup
code if you should kill it in that way.

As someone else already posted, sending an EOF to the command line
(usually by typing CTRL-D) is easier and safer.

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Corrupt ext2 file system
Date: 19 May 2000 18:12:28 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 19 May 2000 21:47:12 GMT, Jim Sundqvist 
<<ADiV4.8421$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>regular user, i.e. not as root, when the file system started to give me
>I/O errors. After rebooting the computer I cannot use the partition that
>went corrupt since the are some problems when reading the ext2fs
>information. The partition was quite large, 15 Gb which become default
>Anyone that can give me some ideas how to recreate the data from the
>corrupted partition? I have tried e2fsck with a few options and ext2ed
>but ext2ed could not handle 15 Gb HDDs. debugfs does not work since the
>file system is corrupt. (or I cannot manage it)
[snip]

If you have a backup of the data, restore from it.  If you don't have a
backup of the data, MAKE ONE NEXT TIME.

*Which* options did you try with e2fsck?  There are a few, you know.  I
assume you tried the standard "e2fsck -b8193 /dev/hda7", but since the
dumpe2fs output showed that you have sparse superblocks turned on, that
may not work.  Standard procedure is to add 8192 to the number after the
-b and try again, but quit after you've gotten to about 65535...

If all else fails, read the man page for mke2fs, paying attention to the
-S option.  Remember that there's no guarantee that anything will be
salvageable.

This is why people split their partitions up a little more... a 15G
partition is larger than many peoples' whole hard drives, and it can be a
royal pain to back up since most home users don't have SCSI tape drives.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Problems creating initial ramdisk
Date: 19 May 2000 22:28:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 19 May 2000, Nick McCubbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I am trying to create a firewall system which will run entirely from a
>ramdisk.  My plans are to create a small DOS partition, install
>syslinux, and start the ramdisk from an image file on the
>DOS partition.  I've been successful before in creating a functioning
>initrd but can't remember what I did differently.
>
>I need more than the 4MB maximum ramdisk size, so I have patched rd.c on
>the kernel I plan to use on the firewall (kernel 2.2.14).  I changed the
>value to 16 MB, which should be plenty of space (I'm using busybox).

Hm, ramdisks can be dynamically sized now.  Maybe this is a default for
boot images.

>I am creating the image file with:
>    dd if=/dev/zero of=firewall.img bs=1k count=16384

Here you zero out a file called firewall.img.  Are you sure you didn't
want to use a ram device (ramdisk) instead?

>When I format the ramdisk image file with a block size of 4K (mke2fs -b
>4096), ext2fs complains:
>    Ext2-fs: Magic mismatch, very weird!
>
>If I format the image using 1K blocks (mke2fs -b 1024), I get:
>    ll_rw_blk: only 4096 char-blocks implemented (1024)

I don't see any /dev specified in either of these, so it is probably
trying to save you from destroying your current file system.  You might
try something like this instead:

/bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ram bs=1k count=16384
/sbin/mke2fs -vm0 /dev/ram 16284
/bin/mount -t ext2 /dev/ram /somewhere_useful

But I have only done a 2 meg ramdisk so I don't know if any parameters
need to be changed.  The ramdisk.txt in your kernel source would tell you
more about how to use this to create a boot image.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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From: "Dale Mosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting terminal to "power save" (using Redhat and Gnome)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:28:45 -0700

I'm using a Linux (Redhat) box as a firewall/router.
It sees occasional use as a browser and sits at run
level 3 with a Gnome login for family members.

Using Gnome I have it set up to put the terminal in
"power save" mode when a user is idle. That is great,
it powers the terminal down such that it takes 10 or 15
seconds to bring up the terminal on a "wakeup".

When no user is logged on and the Gnome login screen
is presented the terminal is not really powered down, it
just blanks the screen but a "wake up" is instant. This is
not efficient as the tube is much hotter in the instant wakeup
mode.

I'm guessing this is a something under Gnome control.
(As the "full powerdown" configuration was done via the
Gnome control panel.)

How do I get the standard behavior with no user logged
on to be a full power save on the terminal?

Thanks, Dale
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Restoring LILO after reformatting 98 partition
Date: 19 May 2000 22:35:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 19 May 2000 04:05:21 GMT, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am using LILO to dual-boot redhat 6.2 and win98, and i recently
>reformatted my 98 partition and lost access to linux.  I was wondering
>how i could boot linux so i could run /sbin/lilo to recover it.  My boot
>disk doesn't seem to work, maybe because I have a separate partition at
>the beginning of the twenty gig drive for /boot, then another partition
>further down for /.

When you figure that out, I suggest you put LILO on /boot and change to
that as the active boot partition (can be done from Windows FDISK or Linux
fdisk).  Then you will not have to worry about Windows stepping on it
again (or thinking LILO is a virus).  I do that with both a 27G drive on
my pc and 9G drive on my laptop.  No more MBR mishaps.

>Any help here would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 19 May 2000 22:46:58 GMT

On 19 May 2000 21:56:28 GMT, 
 Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On 19 May 2000 14:54:20 -0500, 
> : As for your list specifically: KDE is not in Debian as it is not
> : compatible with the GPL.  What do you mean by 'server'?  Web?  Mail?
> 
> However, spiritually and emotionally speaking, it's a darn sight more in
> debian than kde is in RH. There are also fine .deb's of KDE on KDE's site.

Yep, or at kde.tdyc.com.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: tijmens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Making a distribution
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 01:05:46 +0200

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way: making a new distribution. It doesn't have to be functional, as
long as I can play trojka on it, runs some deamons, and maybe even ping
some other machines

Who knows where to find some docs about this, or wants to participate in
this project?

Tijmen

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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Polskie TrueType
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 01:05:34 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pomocy
Troche jestem zly na siebie, ze pokusilem sie uzywac Linuxa jako
desktop. Do momentu kiedy uzywalem Linuxa jako serwera caly czas
wszystko chwalilem. Teraz zaczyna powoli szlak mnie trafiac. A wszystko
przez te cholerne polskie ogonki.
Ostatnio chcialem zainstalowac troche truetype fontow. Wszystko gladko
poszlo, fonty dzialaja, ale uzyskac Polskich fontow nie mozna za chiny.
Nie wiem czy problem nie tkwi w tym , ze xfs zle albo nie potrafi
zinterpretowac Unicodu.  Jezeli uzywa sie starych truetypow (CE) to
takich problemow moze nie byc bo po prostu polskie znaki sa w przedziale
128-256. Ale nie o to chodzi aby sie cofac.

Rafal



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From: "Jay Beatty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ntsysv  broken under RedHat6.2
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:06:22 GMT

I've upgraded from 6.1 to 6.2. Now when I run ntsysv I get:

"error reading from directory /etc/rc.d/init.d : No such file or directory "

But it is there, and contains all the init scripts. I boot up just fine.

Any help appreciated.

jay



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: Getting terminal to "power save" (using Redhat and Gnome)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:09:56 GMT

On Fri, 19 May 2000 15:28:45 -0700,
 Dale Mosby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm using a Linux (Redhat) box as a firewall/router.
>It sees occasional use as a browser and sits at run
>level 3 with a Gnome login for family members.
>
>Using Gnome I have it set up to put the terminal in
>"power save" mode when a user is idle. That is great,
>it powers the terminal down such that it takes 10 or 15
>seconds to bring up the terminal on a "wakeup".
>
>When no user is logged on and the Gnome login screen
>is presented the terminal is not really powered down, it
>just blanks the screen but a "wake up" is instant. This is
>not efficient as the tube is much hotter in the instant wakeup
>mode.
>
>I'm guessing this is a something under Gnome control.
>(As the "full powerdown" configuration was done via the
>Gnome control panel.)
>
>How do I get the standard behavior with no user logged
>on to be a full power save on the terminal?

In your /etc/X11/XF86Config in the Device section add a line:
Option   "power_saver"



-- 
Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Now showing... Linux-Mandrake 7.02

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: Making a distribution
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:10:42 GMT

On Sat, 20 May 2000 01:05:46 +0200,
 tijmens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I want to learn more about linux-internals and i want to do it the hard
>way: making a new distribution. It doesn't have to be functional, as
>long as I can play trojka on it, runs some deamons, and maybe even ping
>some other machines
>
>Who knows where to find some docs about this, or wants to participate in
>this project?

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org



-- 
Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Now showing... Linux-Mandrake 7.02

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From: "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Enlightenment 0.16.4 Upgrade Problem ... SOLVED
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:11:10 GMT

I did not have the helix imlibs.  I do not even remember seeing any
reference to them on the E mirro site I hit to get the updates.  Also, I
only upgraded E.  I did not upgrade Gnome, since I use a window manager
only.

Now that I know how to "fix" the problem, I am going to do more research
on this issue and play around this weekend and see if I can't get it to
work using the 1.9.8 imlibs.  At any rate, I thought the error message
from E (imlib could not be initialised... this is unusual) was priceless.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ray jones
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom Hoffmann wrote:
> 
>> I solved my problem by going back to the 1.9.7.3 imlibs.  I did not see
>> any mention anywhere about an incompatability between E-0.16.4 and
>> imlib-1.9.8, but there apparently is one.
>>
>> In article <qS0V4.73039$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I am attempting to upgrade Enlightenment to 0.16.4 on my RH6.2
>> > system. Before updating E, I updated imlib-1.9.8, imlib-devel-1.9.8,
>> > and imlib-cfgeditor-1.9.8.  No problems reported.  After updating the
>> > imlib, i ran ldconfig.  No problems reported.  However, when I start
>> > E, I get the error: imlib could not be initialized ... this is
>> > unusual.  I can get no further.  There are no messages in syslog.
>> >
>> > I have tried reapplying the imlib updates, uninstalling and
>> > reinstalling E, all with no affect.  I have searched the newsgroups
>> > and the E web site, but can find nothing on this problem.  Any ideas
>> > anyone?
>> >
>> > I am using fvwm in the meantime ... its great to have alternatives
>> > ... but would prefer to get E working.
> 
> Anything that works, is "good", but that's an interesting twist on
> things there. I did the upgrade to the Helix stuff, also, without
> encountering that. Here is the imlib stuff that upgraded. rpm -q imlib
> imlib-1.9.8-0_helix_1 I took the path of upgrading Gnome, followed by E.
> 
> Interesting, huh? I run 2 entirely seperate hard drives as masters,
> here. One drive, I used the auto upgrade offered on the gnome site,
> where a line is pasted into lynx to start the process. The other drive,
> I opted to do by downloading the pieces, hoping I might learn something
> that way. In both cases, I wound up with the helix imlibs and E started
> without issues. This might be worth pursuing until we understand it,
> perhaps.
> 
> --
> Ray R. Jones The Computer Shop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
> 
> 
> 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: less core puts BASH in command mode??
Date: 19 May 2000 18:57:14 -0400

    I use less version 332.

'od -An -a bmp.bmp |less' is perfect! Thank you and to the previous poster.

    A little unreadable, but it'll be handy for programming, to check if all
is ok.  Playing with less -r also makes things better for some files.

                                                            -John

ps. still so many mystery programs, maybe I'll finally get around to making a
list of all the programs in /bin /sbin/ /usr/bin... w/ a one line description.
Does this already exist? It would be nice if they were grouped by function...

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lhouse.org (Dances With Crows) writes:
>On 19 May 2000 15:16:40 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><<8g43uo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>    I'm used to looking at files in dos, .EXE whatever, just to get an idea of
>>what they are before I run them. So when I try the same thing in linux I find
>>that oftentimes bash is put into a command mode:
>>
>>cat bmp.bmp (as you might guess a windows .bmp file) lots of junk then
>
>Don't do that.

    They're actually suprisingly visual...

>>and so on... I'm using fvwm2 and rxvt or xterms. less gives similiar results
>
>??? Which version of less are you using?  For me, less checks the file
>before displaying anything, then asks "foo.bmp appears to be a binary
>file.  See it anyway?"  and if you do say "y", the contents of the file
>are massaged somewhat.  ASCII 27 (ESC) is displayed as "ESC" in inverse
>video, for example, not printed as ASCII 27 directly to stdout.  SImilar
>things are done for all characters outside the printable region.
>
>less --version returns 304 for me.  If it's less than that for you, it may
>be time to upgrade.  od may be OK, but less is usually more comfortable
>for looking at things....
>
>--
>Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
>There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
>But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
>(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 19 May 2000 18:44:01 +0400

In comp.os.linux.misc Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>      a thing.

: First, the Qt library _is_ now free.  Trolltech decided to license it
: using a "free" license.  Second, there already was (a now dead?)

Not "free", just "open source". And Raimond have specially tweaked open
source definition, so Mozilla and Qt would pass the test.
In strict Stallman's sense of "free" Qt is not free.

-- 

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From: Andrew Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:30:04 GMT

I do have the similar problem as yours.  My system is PIII 500 w/160Mb &
13.5GB with 3GB dedicated for Linux 6.2 installation and 256MB for swap. 
The funny thing is the system also come with a IDE controller card.  I
contacted gateway about the card, they couldn't gave me a satisfactory
answer.  I was thinking of removing the card and plug the cable directly to
the MB.  Is there a way to make sure whether the MB can support my HD?

Win 98 can see the HD, but not linux.  This is pissing me off.  

Whenever I tried to install linux, it always gives me an error message that 
filesystem couldn't locate any hard drive present in the system.  I tried
to bypass it, but unsuccessful.

Any suggestion??

Thanks a million in advance

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From: Nelson Lainez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: My Corel Linux box doesn't shutdown
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:30:05 GMT

Hi,

Every time I try to logoff in my Corel Linux box, it freezes.
Any help?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:51:09 GMT

On 19 May 2000 18:44:01 +0400, Victor Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:>     a thing.
>
>: First, the Qt library _is_ now free.  Trolltech decided to license it
>: using a "free" license.  Second, there already was (a now dead?)
>
>Not "free", just "open source". And Raimond have specially tweaked open
>source definition, so Mozilla and Qt would pass the test.
>In strict Stallman's sense of "free" Qt is not free.

        Put another way: what would or wouldn't stop you from making
        a BeOS or MacOS version?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: My Corel Linux box doesn't shutdown
Date: 19 May 2000 19:54:51 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 19 May 2000 23:30:05 GMT, Nelson Lainez 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Every time I try to logoff in my Corel Linux box, it freezes.
>Any help?

Please clarify what you're saying first.  "Logging off" is different from
"shutting down" and you use both terms.  What you said could mean any one
of:

0: entering "logout" at a text console freezes the system
1: logging out of an X session freezes the system when X restarts
2: executing "shutdown -h now" results in a system hang

0 is very unlikely, 1 is a problem with some video cards where X support
is still in beta, 2 is most likely your problem.

To solve #2, compile a new kernel from the latest stable source tree
(2.2.15 at this moment) and enable the "Use Real Mode to power-off"
option, or disable APM entirely and hit the power switch manually.  Read
the Kernel HOWTO at http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html for an
explanation of the process.

(If BIOS manufacturers wouldn't make broken APM implementations, #2 would
not be a problem.)

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Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:00:11 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Getting terminal to "power save" (using Redhat and Gnome)

Dale Mosby wrote:
> 
> I'm using a Linux (Redhat) box as a firewall/router.
> It sees occasional use as a browser and sits at run
> level 3 with a Gnome login for family members.
> 
> Using Gnome I have it set up to put the terminal in
> "power save" mode when a user is idle. That is great,
> it powers the terminal down such that it takes 10 or 15
> seconds to bring up the terminal on a "wakeup".
> 
> When no user is logged on and the Gnome login screen
> is presented the terminal is not really powered down, it
> just blanks the screen but a "wake up" is instant. This is
> not efficient as the tube is much hotter in the instant wakeup
> mode.
> 
> I'm guessing this is a something under Gnome control.
> (As the "full powerdown" configuration was done via the
> Gnome control panel.)
> 
> How do I get the standard behavior with no user logged
> on to be a full power save on the terminal?
> 
> Thanks, Dale
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One way: if your video chip supports it, add "power_saver" to
XF86Config, e.g.:
----
..
# Video device and screen sections.
#**********************************************************************
... 
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Intel 810"
    VendorName  "Intel"
    BoardName   "810"
# add power saving option
    Option  "power_saver"
    VideoRam    4096
EndSection  
...
--- 
This single setting gives the defaults, but you can optionally configure
the various times to reach full power-saving mode.  man 4/5 XF*6Config.

HTH. Bob
L.                                                                    
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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