Linux-Misc Digest #726, Volume #24 Tue, 6 Jun 00 07:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sound with Inspiron 3800? ("Gerard Milmeister")
Re: Serious fragmentation under Linux (Dries van Oosten)
Formatting etc WAS :Re: CAUTION: I am under attack ... (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Mandrake 7 setup question (Karel Jansens)
Re: Serious fragmentation under Linux (Dries van Oosten)
Linux uses lots of memory? (Erik Terpstra)
Re: Linux uses lots of memory? (Martin Herrman)
Re: VNC beim booten starten (Holger Jannsen)
Re: I made my swap partition to be 150 MB (Holger Jannsen)
Re: Equalizing MP3 (or WAV) Volume levels (Robert Hampf)
Re: Linux uses lots of memory? (Mogens Kjaer)
Re: Linux uses lots of memory? (Erik Terpstra)
R: bash shell problem I think ("Paolo Zaccagnini")
Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction (Chez Smith)
Re: Linux uses lots of memory? (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Linux uses lots of memory? (Mark Wilden)
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From: "Gerard Milmeister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound with Inspiron 3800?
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:01:41 +0100
In article <8hgs1m$e69$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an Inspiron3800, 700Mhz PIII, 256mb RAM, 12GB hard drive,
> etc. I needed
> to use both Win98 and Linux RH6.2 and I had the same problems,
> but I fixed them :-)
>
> The solution was to remove LILO from MBR (with "fdisk /mbr" in DOS
> at the C:
> prompt, read the Lilo-howto and Loadlin-Howto for more info)and to
> use Loadlin
I have no Windows partition, and I don't intend to make one. So I have to
wait for another solution.
Thanks anyway.
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From: Dries van Oosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serious fragmentation under Linux
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:45:13 +0200
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, MH wrote:
> I'm not sure your explanation makes any sense, unless "non-contiguous"
> means something else in the Linux world than it does in the DOS world,
> or in the English-speaking world for that matter. I understand
> "non-contiguous" to mean bits of a single file located on blocks
> separated by other empty blocks or blocks containing bits of other
> files. Since files (blocks) are read sequentially, "non-contiguous"
> necessarily implies a degradation in performance since more blocks have
> to be traversed to read (or write) a given file.
You're right. It does imply a relative degradation in performace. But it
depends a lot on how the files are used and what the nature is of the
non-contiguous-ness. Do you notice a degradation in performance as the
number increases?
Groeten,
Dries
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Formatting etc WAS :Re: CAUTION: I am under attack ...
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:01:46 GMT
"FellowTraveller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Please add your comments below the cited text. It's very annoying
having to scroll down first to see what you're commenting on.
>I noticed that you mentioned that Microsofi Internet Exploder isn't
>available on platforms other than "Microsoft operating systems". I know
>that it is available for Solaris, and the last time I checked, Sun
>Microsystems wasn't owned by the great holemaster willy Gates.
Indeed, though IE isn't available for a larger scale of different
platforms.
>Your approach is kinda backward IMHO. HTML, Java and XML formatting has a
>place in the new world of the Internet.
On the Internet, maybe. On Usenet, no. However, when was the last time
you saw a Java applet doing something useful which couldn't have been
done using a CGI script ?
>Just because you support legacy
>applications, that doesn't mean that the world has to stop forever...
Certainly not.
[...]
>I use every platform
>(including your famed Linux) and have uses for them all (AFAIK if you ain't
>got UltraSparc, you ain't got shit). Just because of these facts, IE and
>Outlook have there place in the "normal" world...
Unfortunately, yes. And I say that not because of some ridiculous anti-MS
feelings, but because of the fact that the products are so bug-prone, that
it is simply not worth the efforts trying to get them to conform to
standard Usenet or Internet rules.
[...]
> as I find Outlook Express
>best for news reading...
No. It is the worst program out there. Even the heavily broken Netscape
reader is better than that.
>and I do find that Netscape has not been as good
>as IE for the past 2 or 3 sub-versions. shoot me for this if you want...
>{;-)
Bang.
>As for the transmission of viral payload, check your sister, I heard she
>carries a fair share...
[...]
Nonsense. IE and Outlook are open to a lot of attacks from the outer
world, and even with manually adjusting the relevant settings, you can't
be sure that the next time you open some website or document you will not
be vulnerable to new kinds of security violations.
There's not much sense in storing information using incompatible or
proprietary formats when putting them onto publically accessible
webpages. After all, you want every visitor to be able to retrieve
the information provided; giving them potentially unreadable documents
won't help you much then.
Michael
--
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Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7 setup question
Date: 6 Jun 2000 10:50:38 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Walford) wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2000 23:36:28 GMT, jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
> wrote:
>
> >If I let Mandrake set itself up semi-automatically (i.e. no "expert"
> >mode), will I still be able to stick lilo somewhere else than on the
> >MBR of the root partition, like /dev/hda6? I use OS/2's Boot Manager
> >as my primary booting tool, and it is now set up to boot lilo off the
> >linux partition. I would be seriously p*ssed off if Mandrake were to
> >overwrite Boot Manager.
> >
>
>
> I dont know if the OS/2 boot manager will detect Linux, but I know
> that LILO boots many different OS/s. The version of LILO that comes
> with mandrake 7.0 must be within the first 1024 cylinders to function
> properly. There is a new verion of LILO out that overcomes this limit.
> You would be best off to upgrade your version of LILO. In the
> meantime, use a boot disk to start LILO and Linux.
I _know_ OS/2's Boot Manager doesn't have problems with lilo, I've
been using the setup I described for about a year (with S.u.S.E. 5.3).
I don't intend to move lilo, or even change anything to my linux
partitions. I want to replace the S.u.S.E. distro with Mandrake 7, but
I'm afraid that Mandrake - like Corel Linux - will insist on putting
lilo in the MBR, which would seriously screw up my system. I want to
know if, if I decide to let Mandrake install itself, I can still tell
it where to put lilo, i.e on /dev/hda6.
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_attglobal_dot_net
========================================================
"We seem to be made to suffer. It is our lot in life."
C3P0 - 'Star Wars IV, a New Hope'
========================================================
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From: Dries van Oosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serious fragmentation under Linux
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:50:33 +0200
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, MH wrote:
> / 128 MB
> /boot 16 MB
> /usr 1024 MB
> /var 256 MB
> /tmp 128 MB
> /home 4904 MB
> swap 128 MB
>
> The only partition that even comes close to being full is /usr, which is
> only 58% used. (sorry, I don't recall which partions were associated
> with the fragmentation figures given above, except that neither / nor
> /boot were significant enough to recall).
/ and /boot are hardly ever modified significantly after your install, so
it would be strange if they fragmented. You swap file has no real
filesystem. There shouldn't be much writting to /usr once you installed,
so they only partitions left that can significantly fragment are /var /tmp
and /home. /var is not really a time sensitive partition, since is it
mostly for temporary storage of short files (high scores for instance),
messaging and spooling. If you're using heavy spooling (doing a lot of
post script printing to a non-postscript printer for instance) 256 megs
could be a bit on the small side maybe. /tmp is hardly ever used so it
shouldn't fragment much. Your home partition is extremely large, so it
shouldn't fragment either. I think the only conclusion can be that there
is something seriously messed up about the way you installed your system.
Groeten,
Dries
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:45:33 +0200
From: Erik Terpstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Linux uses lots of memory?
Hi,
I am using Redhat 6.2 on a 64MB system. Because my system was swapping
like hell when I was working under X windows with some apps including
Netscape Communicator, I decided to recompile a kernel with only the
bare necessities. I also turned off most daemons. After a fresh boot the
'free' command shows:
total used free shared buffers
cached
Mem: 63320 23860 39460 5000 1940
15688
-/+ buffers/cache: 6232 57088
Swap: 72252 0 72252
It uses 23860k already? Can't this be further reduced? I supposed Linux
was still able to run on 4MB and 8MB machines, can somebody explain
this?
TIA,
Erik.
=============
dmesg output:
=============
Linux version 2.2.14-5.0 (root@arcturus) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66
19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Thu Jun 1 12:31:59 CEST 2000
Detected 200461578 Hz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 399.77 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63276k/65472k available (848k kernel code, 412k reserved, 892k
data, 44k init, 0k bigmem)
Dentry hash table entries: 262144 (order 9, 2048k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k)
Page cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Intel Pentium MMX stepping 03
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0560
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 65536 bhash 65536)
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x0b (Driver version 1.9)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 78, VID=10b9,
DID=5229
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PCI_IDE: simplex device: DMA disabled
ide0: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
PCI_IDE: simplex device: DMA disabled
ide1: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
hda: ST34310A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: ST34310A, 4111MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=524/255/63
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
pII_mmx : 328.422 MB/sec
p5_mmx : 382.143 MB/sec
8regs : 218.694 MB/sec
32regs : 162.306 MB/sec
using fastest function: p5_mmx (382.143 MB/sec)
md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
Partition check:eth0: 3Com 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at 0xd800,
00:50:04:69:73:5c, IRQ 10
8K byte-wide RAM 5:3 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/Autonegotiate interface.
MII transceiver found at address 24, status 786d.
MII transceiver found at address 0, status 786d.
Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
PPP line discipline registered.
hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed
Adding Swap: 72252k swap-space (priority -1)
3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
=============
Top output sorted on memory usage (under usual circumstances):
=============
573 erik 2 0 23352 21M 7916 S 0 0.0 34.8 2:26
netscape-commun
496 root 3 0 16668 15M 1512 S 0 0.0 25.6 1:23 X
677 erik 0 0 1428 1428 1052 S 0 0.0 2.2 0:00 rxvt
690 erik 0 0 1368 1368 1024 S 0 0.0 2.1 0:00 rxvt
500 erik 4 0 1608 1328 832 S 0 0.0 2.0 0:20
wmaker
386 xfs 0 0 1540 1200 432 S 0 0.0 1.8 0:00 xfs
407 erik 0 0 1000 1000 752 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
516 erik 0 0 1000 1000 748 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
517 erik 3 0 1000 1000 748 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
521 erik 0 0 996 996 748 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
693 erik 0 0 996 996 748 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
519 erik 0 0 988 988 740 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
523 erik 0 0 988 988 740 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
679 erik 0 0 988 988 740 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 bash
635 erik 0 0 880 880 732 S 0 0.0 1.3 0:00 vi
712 erik 0 0 880 880 736 S 0 0.0 1.3 0:00 vi
715 erik 17 0 852 852 668 R 0 1.5 1.3 0:00 top
508 erik 0 0 828 828 688 S 0 0.0 1.3 0:00
wmclock
506 erik 2 0 992 820 536 S 0 0.0 1.2 0:00 rxvt
495 erik 0 0 780 780 648 S 0 0.0 1.2 0:00 xinit
488 erik 0 0 760 760 616 S 0 0.0 1.2 0:00
startx
593 erik 0 0 720 720 568 S 0 0.0 1.1 0:00
telnet
592 erik 0 0 716 716 568 S 0 0.0 1.1 0:00
telnet
710 erik 0 0 688 688 556 S 0 0.0 1.0 0:00 less
333 root 0 0 660 656 304 S 0 0.0 1.0 0:00 klogd
589 erik 0 0 984 656 412 S 0 0.0 1.0 0:00
netscape-commun
507 erik 0 0 800 624 412 S 0 0.0 0.9 0:00 rxvt
503 erik 0 0 804 620 452 S 0 0.0 0.9 0:00 rxvt
504 erik 0 0 736 552 340 S 0 0.0 0.8 0:00 rxvt
324 root 0 0 504 500 404 S 0 0.0 0.7 0:00
syslogd
1 root 0 0 476 476 404 S 0 0.0 0.7 0:04 init
347 root 0 0 424 416 348 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00 inetd
404 root 0 0 408 408 340 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00
mingetty
403 root 0 0 472 292 208 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 login
505 erik 0 0 508 256 148 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 rxvt
2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
kflushd
3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
kupdate
4 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kpiod
5 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
kswapd
6 root -20 -20 0 0 0 SW< 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
mdrecoveryd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux uses lots of memory?
Date: 6 Jun 2000 10:08:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:45:33 +0200, Erik Terpstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using Redhat 6.2 on a 64MB system. Because my system was swapping
> like hell when I was working under X windows with some apps including
> Netscape Communicator, I decided to recompile a kernel with only the
> bare necessities. I also turned off most daemons. After a fresh boot the
> 'free' command shows:
>
> total used free shared buffers
> cached
> Mem: 63320 23860 39460 5000 1940
> 15688
> -/+ buffers/cache: 6232 57088
> Swap: 72252 0 72252
>
> It uses 23860k already? Can't this be further reduced? I supposed Linux
> was still able to run on 4MB and 8MB machines, can somebody explain
> this?
I will ;-) You machine uses 6232kb at this moment (row: -/+ buffers/cache,
collumn: used). No swap is used, total available swap is 72252 kb. Total
RAM: 63320, Free RAM: 57088. The 'used' memory: 23860-6232= approx. 17mb is
used for caching and buffering.
An example:
you start licq, licq is loaded from disk into memory. You shut down licq:
it is still available in memory. You start it again: doesn't even read from
disk! That was because it was still in memory.. Windows would remove it
from memory and reload it again.. How stupid isn't it? When there is more
memory needed, Linux will also remove the licq program from memory.
The idea: why won't we use memory if it is available?
HTH
Martin
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
12:00pm up 4 days, 21:03, 6 users, load average: 0.85, 0.41, 0.25
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: Holger Jannsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VNC beim booten starten
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:06:14 GMT
Hallo,
Klaus Meier schrieb:
>
> Hallo,
> wie kann ich den VNC beim Booten - ohne daß ich mich als USer anmelde starten?
> Wenn ich ihn von rc.2 aus starte kommt in etwas die Meldung "XAUTH nich im Pfad.."
>
> ***
> warm and sunny greetings from Franken / Germany.
> ***
Du hattest in der Gruppe "comp.os.linux.misc" gepostet!;-( Das ist eine
englischsprachige Gruppe. Bitte halte Dich doch an die Konventionen.
Nichtsdestotrotz kannst Du Dich gerne mal auf unserer Homepage im
Downloadsektor umschauen, da ist im Linuxverzeichnis ein Script bzw. ein
Startkonzept für VNC, genau das was Du suchst. Die Scripts sind unter
Gnu-License und teilweise auch mit dt. Doku.
Allerdings empfehle ich nicht, einen vnc-Server ständig auf einem
kritischen Server laufen zu lassen. So hatte wir echte Probs, als wir
das mal über längere Zeit ausprobierten. Da scheint immer noch irgendwo
ein Speicherleck o.ä. in dem vnc-Server zu stecken...??!?
mfg
Holger
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From: Holger Jannsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I made my swap partition to be 150 MB
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:31:35 GMT
Hello,
News Reader wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^please mail only with your REALNAME!!!
> But free, top, and dmesg says that it's 1.5GB
> ....
There has been a limit for the size of swap. It was 124MB. So it seems
that you're driving an older Kernel-version and you should be happy that
your system hasn't been crashed yet...;-)))
(Don't ask me when swap has gone out of 128MB-limit...?!?)
Try to split swap on several partitions.
BTW: Do ya really need so many megabytes of swap for that 32mb ram?
Holger
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Hampf)
Subject: Re: Equalizing MP3 (or WAV) Volume levels
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:10:26 +0300
John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hélt þessu fram:
:
: What I would like is
: some kind of indicator of the average or relative loudness of a MP3 and
: then have some control to adjust it.
A virtual compressor (with leveller and limiter) would be fantastic!
Something like http://www.aphexsys.com/2020 Maybe you could make it
as a plugin to Xmms but it would be even better as a stand alone
unit. Maybe it could work with the Alsa drivers.
rh
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From: Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux uses lots of memory?
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 12:16:42 +0200
Erik Terpstra wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am using Redhat 6.2 on a 64MB system. Because my system was swapping
> like hell when I was working under X windows with some apps including
> Netscape Communicator, I decided to recompile a kernel with only the
> bare necessities. I also turned off most daemons. After a fresh boot the
> 'free' command shows:
>
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 63320 23860 39460 5000 1940 15688
> -/+ buffers/cache: 6232 57088
> Swap: 72252 0 72252
>
> It uses 23860k already? Can't this be further reduced? I supposed Linux
> was still able to run on 4MB and 8MB machines, can somebody explain
> this?
I think this question has been asked before :-)
No, it uses 6232k. And 1940+15688 for buffers and cache. It is quite
normal
for a Linux system to have a free value of around a few Mb when it has
been up for
a while. The cache will be released if the memory is needed.
The standard RH62 kernel has most of the features as modules, so if you
don't use
a certain feature, it doesn't take up any memory.
Yes, netscape uses a lot of memory... But you can't blame the Linux
kernel for this.
I don't think anyone would run X and netscape on a 4Mb or 8Mb machine.
Mogens
--
Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg Laboratory, Dept. of Chemistry
Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 12:25:31 +0200
From: Erik Terpstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux uses lots of memory?
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
> No, it uses 6232k. And 1940+15688 for buffers and cache. It is quite
> normal
> for a Linux system to have a free value of around a few Mb when it has
> been up for
> a while. The cache will be released if the memory is needed.
Thanks for the explanation.
> The standard RH62 kernel has most of the features as modules, so if you
> don't use
> a certain feature, it doesn't take up any memory.
>
> Yes, netscape uses a lot of memory... But you can't blame the Linux
> kernel for this.
I didn't doubt the quality of the Linux kernel on this, I expected it to
be my fault :-)
>
> I don't think anyone would run X and netscape on a 4Mb or 8Mb machine.
>
> Mogens
> --
> Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg Laboratory, Dept. of Chemistry
> Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
> Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk
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From: "Paolo Zaccagnini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: R: bash shell problem I think
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:46:40 +0100
Reply-To: "Paolo Zaccagnini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Probably you don't have set the current directory in the path.
Try like this:
./hello
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From: Chez Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.graphics.rendering.renderman,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:02:40 GMT
Marcin Tustin wrote:
> Using MAndrake 7.0
> 1)Sound Card: During boot, ISAPNP fine, modprobe stage
> returns "/lib/.../ad1816.o - device or resource busy" (Yes, module
> exists). Anyone have any idea why?
edit /etc/modules.conf and make sure the io, irq, dma, blah blah are
correct for the module for your soundcard
or modprobe <driver> io=? irq=? dma8=? dma16=? midi_io=?
(mine is modprobe sb io=0x230 irq=5 dma8=1 dma16=5 midi_io=0x630)
>
>
>
> 2)Mops - I've heard it's possible to get mops to work under
> Mandrake by "making a link to the c++ libraries". Assuming that
> that's to the .a and .so files under /lib/gcc-lib/i586-
> mandrake/egcs-2.95.2/, put the link where? Hard or soft? Anyone
> tried this (I've tried /usr/lib and /lib)?
don't know what mops is but those directories are BAD to play around
with....they should be in your /etc/ld.so.conf anyway
if not add them to this file-save-and run ldconfig
>
>
> 3)Mail and news - anyone found a mail/news user agent that
> compiles AND doesn't want to make them vomit (can't stand any that
> come with mandrake)? Also, any HOWTOs on transport agents
> (according to the LDP mail-HOWTO there's no need to cover how I'm
> supposed to have the mua's transport the mail - I guess that it's
> probably easy, but it'd nice to have some docs).
>
checkout freshmeat.net
>
> --
> Humanity will not be happy until the day when the
> last bureaucrat has been hanged with the guts of
> the last capitalist.
>
> Marcin Tustin
> PGP Key at http://www.anarchist99.freeserve.co.uk/marcintustin.txt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]&OATS.com
> Marcint@^^refreshmagazine.com.nomail <-- Do not use at this time
>
> KeyID 0x86D72550
> Fingerprint DDD9 FB07 4C2F 9A79 C860 C391 D672 364C 86D7 2550
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux uses lots of memory?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:54:02 GMT
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:45:33 +0200, Erik Terpstra wrote:
> [ FAQ: Help, Linux eats up all my memory! ]
>
> It uses 23860k already? Can't this be further reduced? I supposed
> Linux was still able to run on 4MB and 8MB machines, can somebody
> explain this?
<http://www.linuxdoc.org/FAQ/Linux-FAQ/index.html#AEN166>
<http://www.linuxdoc.org/FAQ/Linux-FAQ/x2352.html#AEN2394>
<http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/sag/c1463.html>
<http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/sag/x1565.html>
<http://alfie.ist.org/LinuxFAQ/chapter3.html#qa05202> (German, but you'll
get the point ;-)
> [ ... ]
HTH,
Thomas
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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux uses lots of memory?
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 12:01:02 +0100
Martin Herrman wrote:
>
> you start licq, licq is loaded from disk into memory. You shut down licq:
> it is still available in memory. You start it again: doesn't even read from
> disk! That was because it was still in memory.. Windows would remove it
> from memory and reload it again.. How stupid isn't it?
That's not true in my experience. After upgrading to 256Mb, I found that
after I'd loaded the programs I generally used, the hard disk never got
hit again, even when I reloaded them.
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