Linux-Misc Digest #726, Volume #25 Sun, 10 Sep 00 18:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Goddamnit! Can't download files (Praedor Tempus)
cdrecord: loss of streaming? (Jehsom)
Re: windows/linux hd (Restpro)
Power management in Xfree? ("Yura")
Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem (Jerry Peters)
Re: efax and .ps files ("David Quinn")
Re: debian package management question ("Peter T. Breuer")
Control-alt-delete in RedHat 5.2 ("Chris Rehmann")
Re: Glassware (was: re: http://www.msnbc.com/msn/456664.asp?cp1=1) (Marvin W. Klotz)
Re: efax and .ps files ("Peter T. Breuer")
can't open apps ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Control-alt-delete in RedHat 5.2 (Fester)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Re: Networking (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Gyland)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (jabali)
What is the maximum swap space? Max RAM? ("Arctic Storm")
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Goddamnit! Can't download files
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 14:15:05 -0600
I stumbled into another "fix"...OK, not a fix but a way around the
problem. I have found that if you hit the "Cancel" button on the
download window in Netscape and then immediately select the desired
file for re-download, it will QUICKLY download (more like ftp is
finding the file is already downloaded and it is resuming download)
and complete.
I do this often now and it works every time. The problem of not
completing the download properly, I have found, seems to involve
large files. I have run into this problem when downloading
XFree86 source, kernel source, etc. I have yet to run into this
problem with small files of a few K in size. In any case, I wait
until the download progress gets to 100%, then hit "Cancel" and
select the file again for download immediately. In a few seconds,
it is done and OK.
praedor
Graham Daniell wrote:
>
> I have been having exactly the same problem under Red Hat 6.2,
> running either Netscape or using gftp. However I overcame it
> initially by, after the 100% is downloaded, copying the
> downloaded file to another dir (in case terminating gftp killed
> the file, as sometimes happens). This worked for me on a couple
> of occassions.
>
> Then I discovered wget, which although a command-line utility, is
> very good, and which seemed to not suffer from this problem.
>
> Give it a go - hope it works for you. (PS - you need the full
> ftp address of the file(s) you want to download first).
>
> Basic use is: wget ftp://ftp.anyplace.com/pub/dir/anyfile
>
> To download multiple fiiles, the easiest way is to put the url's
> of the files into a text file, and then do:
> wget -i textfilename
>
> (See man wget.)
>
> It also has excellent facilities like automatic restart of
> aborted downloads, auto downloading of new files, directory tree
> recusion, ability to download whole ftp or http sites etc etc.
>
> Regards,
> Graham Daniell
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Praedor Tempus wrote:
>
> > This is really beginning to tick me off.
> >
> > Lately I have been unable to download files. I have
> > tried with ncftp and plain old ftp. Neither works.
> >
> > What happens is that it appears to download fine, all
> > the way to the end, but at the end, the connection
> > doesn't terminate and just doesn't complete.
> >
> > Using Netscape, I tried downloading a couple of
> > RPMs from rufus.rpmfind. Both rpms downloaded 100%
> > but the download window will NOT close. I cannot
> > install the rpms because of this.
> >
> > If I try to download via CLI using ncftp, the same
> > thing occurs. The download goes to "completion"
> > but wont really complete the transaction.
> >
> > What. Is. Wrong. Please, does anyone know what
> > the deal here might be?
> >
> > How do I fix this?
> >
> > I am running Mandrake 7.1, kernel-2.2.17, glibc-2.1.3-6mdk,
> > Netscape 4.72 (which has worked fine until very recently),
> > ncftp-3.0.1-6mdk.
> >
> > Anyone? Anyone?
> >
> > praedor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jehsom)
Subject: cdrecord: loss of streaming?
Date: 10 Sep 2000 20:26:10 GMT
I'm trying to burn a data cd from the output of mkisofs, and cdrecord
just makes coasters, telling me it had a loss of streaming. Normally,
I'd suspect this meant a buffer underrun, but it was apparently not,
because the FIFO was at 100% during this error, and the min fill was
96%, as reported at the end.
I'm using a Plextor PlexWriter 8/4/32A (IDE) on an Abit KA7-100 mobo.
I'm not sure right offhand which controller the plextor is on.
Anyone have any suggestions? Here are the errors:
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01: 85 MB written (fifo 100%).cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi
sendcmd: retryable error
CDB: 2A 00 00 00 AB D0 00 00 10 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 00 AC 68 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 44136 (valid)
cmd finished after 0.194s timeout 40s
write track data: error after 90079232 bytes
Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Writing time: 90.686s
Fixating...
Fixating time: 33.663s
cdrecord: fifo had 2877 puts and 2750 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 1390 times full, min fill was 96%.
Thanks,
Moshe
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From: Restpro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: windows/linux hd
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 16:33:44 -0400
explore2fs at http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/07/26/964587854.html
Karim Saleh wrote:
>
> My CPU has 2 hard drives,
>
> one with 850 mg
> one with 510 mg
>
> i formatted the 510 mg hard drive with dos and then booted red hat linux
> from a disk.
> i installed linux and it worked, so far so good!
>
> however, going into windows 'my computer' there is no mention of the second
> hard drive any more (D:)
> now if i want windows to recognize this hard drive again, what do I do?
>
> thanx
>
> Calvin
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From: "Yura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Power management in Xfree?
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:38:26 GMT
Hi!
I was wandering if I can tune up Xfree to turn my monitor off after some time.
Gnome attempts to do it but it doesn't really turn it off, just make the screen black.
Is this possble?
Thanks.
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From: Jerry Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:45:38 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.development.system Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : While I was reorganizing my backup (using a CD-writer), I had the idea
> : of using an ISO-9660 image file mounted through the loopback device. I
> : soon had to learn it won't work the way I liked since ISO-9660 is simply
> : readonly.
> But there's no law that says you MUST use an ISO9660 filesystem on a
> CD! You can write any old filesystem you like, as long as you're willing
> to live with the hit that you can read it only on systems that understand
> that type of filesystem. For example, SCO used to distribute old Skunkware
> CDROMs with one of their own filesystems burned on it.
Yup, just be prepared for _very_ slow access, though. Ext2 is
optimized for a random access disk, not the slow random access of a
cdrom.
Jerry
> So, you should be able to create, e.g., a EXT2 loopback filesystem, fill
> it up to 650 megs total filesystem size then burn it into a CD. Having
> done that you SHOULD be able to mount it (with "-r") like any other
> EXT2 filesystem.
> : I think it's time Linux gets the ability to use writable image files, so
> I seem to remember seeing that support for UDF is coming, perhaps in the
> 2.4.x kernel? When using a CD-RW medium it allows you to add/erase files
> in a way that seems (at least superficailly) like any other R/W
> filesystem. It works on Windoze (which isn't much of a recommendation, I
> know! :^), so when it becomes supported on Linux you won't really need
> your writable ISO stuff.
> : I'm going to make the following proposition:
> <snip>
> : What are you thinking about my proposition? Could this be done or are
> : there obstacles I don't see. Is it alltogether not necessary, because
> : there's a much better solution?
> I suspect (not having a CD writer on my Linux box, darn it!) that you
> could simulate what you want without needing a new filesystem, although
> it will cost you some disk space:
> As my suggesiton above, make a loopback EXT2 system, put in it whatever
> you want, add/delete/modify to your heart's content then when ready to
> burn a CD, create an empty ISO filesystem, cp from the EXT2 loopback to
> the ISO loopback and voila!
> Or am I all wet? (be gentle! :^)
> --
> ---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
> I can do all things through Christ
> who strengthens me.
> ------------------------------ Philippians 4:13 -------------------------------
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From: "David Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: efax and .ps files
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:48:11 +0100
I've found the reason for this fault, the indication was in the "faxtest.ps
is text..." message that fax make outputs:
I have been creating the test postscript files using a HP LJ 4 postscript
driver on a Win98 client printing to a file. The conversion of a .ps file
to a TIFF file requires that the first line of the file is something similar
to:
%!-PS-Adobe-3.0 (most important is the %! part)
Without it the file is treated as text instead of postscript.
My postscript files have some printer info in the first four lines for PJL
resolution etc. If I remove the offending lines, the TIFF file is created
correctly.
Not being a postscript expert, can anyone advise me how I print to a
postscript file in a Windows client without including any printer-specific
header information.
David Quinn
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: debian package management question
Date: 10 Sep 2000 20:48:20 GMT
Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: hi there: I'm new to debian and have a working debian 2.2 system. Now I
: would like to upgrade a few (but not all) programs to their unstable or
: proposed upgrades versions (specifically navigator to 4.75 and wm2).
: What's the easiest way to do that. Guess I could download the new version
Just point apt-get at them. (man apt-get).
: and then use dpkg. But can I include some woody lines in apt/sources.list?
You actually use dpkg? Why. Apt-get is a much better front end, and is
network aware (making a huge understatement). The whole idea of
debians package management is that you just configure some remote site
or sites in /etc/apt.conf (or wherever - the defaults shoudl be fine),
and then when you want, say a new libc. say:
apt-get install libc
and hey presto, got, and installed.
Do an apt-get update every so often to bring the listings up to date.
: PS: and while we at it, how do I find out what files a given package
: contains and what package a given file on my system belongs to (if
: any)??
Have you actually tried man dpkg? It's only use is listing such
things, or searching for them. And you could always just read the
database (or edit it). It's ascii.
Peter
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From: "Chris Rehmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Control-alt-delete in RedHat 5.2
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 16:01:25 -0500
My wife was looking at Netscape on my machine running RedHat 5.2. When it
locked up, she pressed control-alt-delete, and it went back to the login
screen.
I logged in, but all I got was a single button in the upper left corner that
said "xconsole"
and a popup menu with "Exit FVWM" as the only option. I was unable to get
an
xterm or any other window.
How do I recover from control-alt-delete? I am switching over to another
system, and
I recently ended the support contract for this machine. I have looked at
the documentation
in the Linux Documentation Project, but I was unable to find anything
relevant.
Thank you.
Chris Rehmann
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marvin W. Klotz)
Crossposted-To: sci.chem,rec.crafts.metalworking
Subject: Re: Glassware (was: re: http://www.msnbc.com/msn/456664.asp?cp1=1)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:04:45 GMT
On 10 Sep 2000 11:20:47 -0700, Zorch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Crossposted to c.o.l.m and r.c.m for reasons that will be apparent;
> PLEASE check the Newsgroups line if replies veer too far off topic!]
>
>In article <8pfb21$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> Homebrewers risk the wrath of W. by owning "erlenmeyer flasks,
>>florence flasks, round bottom flasks, single neck flasks, separatory
>>flasks, and filter flasks." The fine is up to $4,000 and a year in jail.
>>Fortunately, permits are available:
>>"Luckily, getting the requisite permit is easy and costs nothing but a
>>stamp. [...] You will need to fill out a simple form (information from
>>your driver's license, whether you have ever been arrested or charged with
>>any drug-related offense, the number and type of items for which a permit
>>is sought, and what you intend to do with them), and mail it to the DPS."
>
<snip>
>
>Anyone else here -- regardless of whether you have glassware at home or
>not -- really incensed by all this? ...I'm no NRA member. I don't own a
>gun, I don't particularly want one, and I frankly find a lot of the gun lobby to
>be extremely creepy. I understand, even feel some of the fear that led
>to increasingly restrictive gun registration requirements. But those creepy
>folks have a very important message for us: our *inherent* right to do whatever
>we damn well please and thereby express and realize ourselves as individual
>entities (to borrow dippy hippie jargon for a change) so long as we are not
>infringing thereby on the rights of others, is being steadily eroded by
>manipulation of the public hysteria over very real social problems (violence,
>drug addiction, etc...), and each new restriction, each new registration
>requirement, each new creation of a victimless "crime", each new law mandating
>that public agencies report to the government on private citizens' activities --
>all contribute to that erosion.
<snip>
Robin, are you listening/reading?
I don't know if this is for real. Trouble is, it sounds just insane enough, given the
brave new world approach of prosecuting the device, rather than the criminal, to be
true.
This is *exactly* the sort of idiocy I was talking about in an earlier post where I
proposed the idea that gun control *is* on topic because it exemplifies a government
trend
that can ultimately affect our access to whatever tools and materials we need to pursue
our hobbies.
Virtually any material or tool can be misused. The average voter, a couch potato who
never does or builds anything, has no need of most of these things. So he sees no
problem
with licensing/controlling/outlawing them. He'll vote for higher taxes needed to
establish the GEA (Glass Enforcement Agency) because it's "for the children".
So, what can we do? I fear the short answer is "damn little".
The generally suggested political action approach is a waste of time unless one wants
to
agitate for something unpassable like an IQ test for voters. The government will be
careful to only target things of importance to a minority at first (e.g., guns,
specialty
tools, lab glassware, electronic components) so the liberal majority will back their
efforts. By the time they get around to registering kitchen knives and claw hammers,
there will be plenty of "precedents" for them to "expand". Joe Voter is so dumb, he'll
probably think it's patriotic to turn over his cooking equipment by then.
Or, an equally unrealistic political goal would be to agitate for a constitutional
amendment.
Amendment 2a: The right to keep and bear "stuff".
Yeah, Zorch, count me in. I'm very incensed by this senselessness. But I don't see
any
realistic way to thwart it.
Marv
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home shop mathematical freeware page at:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/4425
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: efax and .ps files
Date: 10 Sep 2000 21:02:19 GMT
David Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Not being a postscript expert, can anyone advise me how I print to a
: postscript file in a Windows client without including any printer-specific
: header information.
You tick the well hidden little box for "produce standard postscript,
not some deliberately mutilated windows version designed to make the
world think that only windows gets it right".
As far as I recall, the acronym they use to disguise "produce standard
PS" is pretty opaque. APSD? Something like that.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: can't open apps
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:28:56 GMT
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this
but when I make a ppp connection via kppp I cannot
open any other applications. Not even a terminal.
I am running Caldera's Open Linux 2.4 (edesktop) .
Acer computer with 333mhz 156mb ram.
I downloaded the Kppp after I installed Linux
because it came with Ksaferppp--which is a pain in
the ___.
Any thoughts?
John
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Re: Control-alt-delete in RedHat 5.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:53:38 GMT
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 16:01:25 -0500, Chris Rehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My wife was looking at Netscape on my machine running RedHat 5.2. When it
>locked up, she pressed control-alt-delete, and it went back to the login
>screen.
Yikes! CTRL-ALT-DEL does *not* do the same thing in Linux as in Windows!
The way to handle that situation is to kill the netscape process from
either your windows manager, or a vterm (try CTRL-ALT-F1).
Failing the ability to do that, use CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill/restart
(depending on your configuration) XWindows.
If you have users of your system who don't understand this, you might want
to disable the CTRL-ALT-DELETE interrupt in /etc/inittab.
--
-- Fester
We like Roy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:55:34 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ingemar Lundin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:NzPu5.16$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> rpm is not Linux alternative to winzip thats gzip/gunzip, rpm is the
> alternative for .msi -files or rather .msi was invented by MS after rpm
had
> been around for awhile....strange he?
Not really strange, it is just another case of Windows playing catch up with
Linux / unix.
The best Linux / unix option to winzip is infozip software. zip and unzip
programs have predated winzip just as pkzip and pkunzip did. Since pkzip
and infozip predated Windows ports of the software. It is again just
another case of Windows playing catch up with Linux / unix and in this case
Dos.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Gyland)
Crossposted-To: linux.help
Subject: Re: Networking
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:58:56 GMT
Den Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:32:46 +0200, skrev Ermanno Sartori :
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--------------8566F00443E5D1B43BE96B84
>Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;
> name="ermanno.vcf"
Please try turning off HTML and v-cards.
--
Øystein Gyland
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From: jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:52:21 +0100
Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Yep, Apple's another sad case. They were in the market before IBM/MS
>and with a much better OS.=20
Apple's problem was its closed shop attitude. They won't license anybody =
to
produce a clone. No corporate buyer would consider a single source produc=
t.
Even Intel had to license AMD to provide an alternate source of chips. IB=
M PC's
architecture was open - clones flooded in - everyone was happy. When IBM =
tried
to produce a non-clonable prodcut - PS2 - they lost out and virtually had=
to
get out of the PC market.=20
QL (remember it - Sir Clive's baby), Atari, Amiga - all lost out because =
they
could not make up their mind where to pitch their products - in the gamin=
g
market or in the office market. They also did not allow cloning - though =
there
were not much enthusiasm for that from clone makers - which also played a=
gainst
them. No major corporation would take such a product seriously. Home mark=
et
does not make a computer viable, it is the corporate market.=20
--=20
jabali
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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: What is the maximum swap space? Max RAM?
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:09:41 GMT
What is the maximum swap space? Max RAM?
There are many web sites, including RedHat, that seems to imply that the
maximum swap space is 128 MB. They never say that it cannot be larger than
128 MB; they simply say that it can handle up 128 MB of swap space.
I have 194 MB RAM, and I'm under the impression that larger the swap space,
the better, so I chose 384 MB of swap space (2x RAM). My RedHat Linux 6.2
runs without problems, but is this an overkill, or, is there something wrong
that I'm not aware of?
By the way, what's the maximum RAM supported by RedHat Linux 6.2?
Thanks,...
-
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