Linux-Misc Digest #302, Volume #25 Tue, 1 Aug 00 03:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: ALSA 0.5.8 and ESS1869 (Sergey Gimanov)
Re: Add space for /usr (Sergey Gimanov)
Kernel upgrade (Sergey Gimanov)
Re: INIT process hangs on boot (Dances With Crows)
Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Re: Corel Office 2000 for Linux ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: Upgrading the Kernel Questions.. ("kc")
Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible? ("Michael Westerman")
Re: SSH2: Authentication fails ("miles zarathustra")
Unexpected daily disk activity... (MH)
Re: Unexpected daily disk activity... (Akira Yamanita)
Re: ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x80 ("Michael Westerman")
lm_sesors' reading. (Alex)
***HELP! Fail to kill process during system shutdown (kaho)
Re: ***HELP! Fail to kill process during system shutdown (Bill Unruh)
Re: Kernel upgrade (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Unexpected daily disk activity... (David M. Cook)
Re: Building a Linux Server from scratch: Experiences? (John Broadhead)
Can't access samba share (saggi69)
Re: Come to my Linux's Website! ("Elmer Fudd")
Re: Which IDE linux C programers use? (David M. Cook)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sergey Gimanov)
Subject: Re: ALSA 0.5.8 and ESS1869
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 02:06:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:34:00 +0400, "Grigory V. Manushkin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi everybody !!!
>Here is the problem
>1.when i try to increase master volume (alsamixer)
>up to 100 % the sound quite disappered.
>2.when i try 2 change master volume i hear some fuss (no matter
>console or X)
>3.the loud is lower than oss driver have
>
Well, the trick is that all channels are muted by default. All you
have to do is to unmute them:
bash# amixer set Master unmute
and voila.
WBR.
Sergey Gimanov.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sergey Gimanov)
Subject: Re: Add space for /usr
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 02:06:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:44:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I am currently running my Linux off a 4 GB partition on my system. Now,
>the /usr partition is gradually running out of space and is currently
>63% utilized.
>I have a second hdd broken down into a 2 GB and a 6 GB partition.
>
>Could someone offer any directions on how I can use the 2 GB on hdb to
>be used as a /usr once the /usr on hda runs out of capacity ?
Read Software-RAID HOWTO. It says how to make your two disks operate
as if they were one. Or mount your second disk as /usr/local.
>
>Q.2 : Is there any how-to on mounting ntfs partitions with read-only
>permissions.
>
Who needs HOWTO? Thats very easy. Be more specific and ask a question.
Best regards.
Sergey Gimanov.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sergey Gimanov)
Subject: Kernel upgrade
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 02:06:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi there, everyone.
Well, that was the first time I've upgraded my kernel from 2.2.12 to
2.2.16 (I'm going to use ReiserFS). I usually make a monolyth kernel,
but there are some modules that cannot be recompiled, such as
bsd_comp. So I've a question: how to recompile those modules, because
when I use modules from my old kernel, it says "Incorrect version".
TFTHAOT.
Sergey Gimanov.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: INIT process hangs on boot
Date: 1 Aug 2000 03:41:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 31 Jul 2000 15:38:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm trying to boot into my linux machine but I'm receiving the message:
> INIT: no more processes in this runlevel
>When the message displays, my machine locks up completely. Everything
>was running fine until I switched to a different monitor, which is
>where the problem began. Anoyone have an idea of what may be causing
>this? Any help is appreciated.
At the LILO: prompt, enter
linux 3
if you're using a RedHat system, or
linux 2
if you're using a SuSE system. This will give you a command-line-only
login prompt. Log in as root, run Xconfigurator, SaX, or XF86Setup, and
tell this program what make/model of monitor you're using now. That
should fix X's problems, and then you should be able to get back to X by
entering
init 3 (SuSE)
init 5 (RedHat)
If "linux {2,3}" still gives you the same problem with INIT, then you've
got a much larger problem that means you did something other than just
plug a new monitor in. You can try to fix things by entering "linux
single" at the LILO: prompt, or if even that bombs out, try "linux
init=/bin/sh". Post *all* the messages the machine gives you
regardless. This is a bit strange to me, but there's got to be a
solution....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:43:51 -0700
"Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, William R. Mattil quoth:
> $$ FYI Three different unicies AIX, Slowaris, and RH all agree.
> $$
> $$ file /etc/passwd
> $$ /etc/passwd: ASCII text
>
> I am sure they do. I did not make any claims about this affecting RH
> as well.
Now I'm confused. If you're not making claims about RH, why did
you post the lead article in this thread with
Subject: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
???
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:58:19 GMT
blowfish writes:
> Red Hat, Debian et al are ALL selling the GNU-GPL stuff for money.
Wrong. Debian sells nothing.
> I know exactly what free software are. But my reason of using "free
> software" is not because they're free I always BUY the "official CDs/DVD
> releases,
Then you don't know what free software is. It's free as in free speech,
not as in free beer.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:54:16 GMT
blowfish writes:
> My point is: It's not fair for repackagers to make big profits out of
> freely contributed work.
So don't contribute any work and you'll be ok.
> ...ALL of the distros are commercial....
Would you care to explain in just what way Debian is commercial?
> Wouldn't that will encourage the developers to write more good stuff?
VA fixed me up with $25k last year: I admit I do find that encouraging.
> My ISP's news server is really shitty, most of the threads are
> missing,...
So buy your news from someone like newsguy. Good service, $25/year.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Office 2000 for Linux
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:53:49 -0700
Ed Lewis wrote:
>
> I am using Corel Office 2000 on a Corel Linux machine. When I bring up
> WordPerfect9 or Quattropro9 they take around 45 seconds to load. They work
> OK after they are loaded but surely there is something that can be done to
> make them load faster. Does anyone have any suggestions, if so, I will
> appreciate any help.
The trouble is that they're loading and initializing WINE.
The version that ships with Office is getting a bit creaky
and spends a lot of time dealing with error recovery that
newer ones seem to avoid. I've tried replacing my WINE but
haven't figured out a 100% reliable way to emulate the settings
that Corel has.
It *might* be possible to have wineserver up and running at login.
Which might make login slow but CO loading faster. Maybe a WINE
expert can suggest an approach.
--
| Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable |
| e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. |
| There isn't really a tooth fairy, but whois toothfairy.com works. |
+----------- D. C. & M. V. Sessions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----------+
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From: "kc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading the Kernel Questions..
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:13:13 -0600
In article <8m51p7$mnp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently using Mandrake Linux with kernel version 2.2.13 I would like to
> upgrade to the latest kernel (2.2.16). Since this will be my first time doing
> it, is there anyone that can explain how to do it? I'd very much appreciate
> it, or if there is some HOWTO or such, I'd like to know.
>
> Thanks, Gary
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/compiling/kernelcomp.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:03:49 GMT
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:27:00 -0400, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I can not say Slackware sucks because I have trouble with
>it, can I?
If you find a typo, please feel free. That is the new standard.
--
Hal B
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible?
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:51:05 +1000
a 386 DX ... 8MB 30 pin ram 80 MB HD...
a 486 sx 16 Mb ram 500 MB HD
old but reliable.
great file archive servers
none have fpu.
Henry Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tony Mantler wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Henry Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > : Jeff Pierce wrote:
> > :
> > : > I was recently given a Mac LC III with a CRT< 500 meg hard drive,
> > : > external CD and eerything else. Is there a Linux distro for it??
> > : >
> > : > I would like to use it as a networking gateway/Ip masqurade syestem
if
> > : > possible. If not I plan to either try to sell it at a hamfest, and
> > : > failing at that, donate it to a local Community College.
> > : >
> > : > P.S. I a not a Mac person...
> > : >
> > : > Please reply via Email also...
> > [...]
> > : No built in FPU with the LCIII. Get an FPU or sell it. Though FPU
> > : emulation is written into the Slink and the Potato kernel of Debian,
> > : neither system will boot Linux without the FPU. Be nice if FPU
emulation
> > : would work!
> >
> > FPU emulation works just fine. Slow, but fine.
> >
> > If you have experienced a specific bug that's preventing FPUE for
> > working for you, please post to the Linux-Mac68k list with the details.
> >
> > Cheers - Tony :)
> >
> > --
> > Tony Mantler Renaissance Nerd Extraordinaire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
http://www.escape.ca/~eek
>
> What machine do you have a working linux without an FPU?
>
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From: "miles zarathustra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SSH2: Authentication fails
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:58:13 GMT
Being a lazy red hat user, I installed the .rpm from www.ssh.org and it ran
the first time. rpm generates the necessary keys, though I don't think it's
hard to do from the command line.
don't try to connect with a ssh 1.x client. It won't work.
> ' I am trying out SSH v 2.0. I set up sshd2 to be run from inetd as
> ' there seemed no need for it to run as a seperate deamon
No need, but they say it will be slower to start up since it has to generate
a key.
-= miles =-
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unexpected daily disk activity...
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:06:01 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Every day, at 4:00 AM, I experience a lot of disk activity. I have
configured a daily backup at 2:00 AM using crontab--but have not
configured any other scheduled routines. I can find no scripts in
/ect/cron.daily that would explain this activity. I'm running RH 6.0
with kernel 2.2.16
The following scripts exist (which I did not create) in /etc/cron.daily:
logrotate.cron
makewhatis.cron
slocate.cron.
None of those scripts indicate a time, nor do they seem to be anything
that would generate several minutes of sustained disk activity.
What is going on? And what are "makewhatis.cron" and "slocate.cron"
doing?
--
"For it is the natural tendency of the ignorant to believe what is not
true.
In order to overcome that tendency it is not sufficient to exhibit the
true;
it is also necessary to expose and denounce the false."
-- H. L. Mencken
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unexpected daily disk activity...
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 05:22:20 GMT
MH wrote:
>
> Every day, at 4:00 AM, I experience a lot of disk activity. I have
> configured a daily backup at 2:00 AM using crontab--but have not
> configured any other scheduled routines. I can find no scripts in
> /ect/cron.daily that would explain this activity. I'm running RH 6.0
> with kernel 2.2.16
>
> The following scripts exist (which I did not create) in /etc/cron.daily:
>
> logrotate.cron
> makewhatis.cron
> slocate.cron.
>
> None of those scripts indicate a time, nor do they seem to be anything
> that would generate several minutes of sustained disk activity.
>
> What is going on? And what are "makewhatis.cron" and "slocate.cron"
> doing?
slocate.cron generates the database for when you use the "locate"
command. That's what's causing the activity. I don't know what
makewhatis.cron is. I have it on my RH 6.1 but never looked inside
it.
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x80
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:22:51 +1000
happened to me just before the second ide drive failed (same channel)
but more likly it was a ne2100 using the same io port as my ide card.
so check that out to.
Mat Kelcey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> something very similiar to me happened on my oldest drive causes it had
> a heap of corrupted sectors. a forced full check of the partitions
> located the bad blocks or whatever and removed them.
>
> is the drive old? run the fullest check you can over it, maybe something
> will turn up?
>
> good luck anyways.
> mat
>
> Yumin Lee wrote:
>
> > I have a desktop Pentium III running
> > Redhat 6.2. Recently the machine hangs
> > after idling for 5 or 6 hours, with the
> > following error messages that repeat
> > ad infinitum:
> >
> > ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x80, count=xxxx
> > ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x80
> > hda:status timeout, status=0x80 { Busy }
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 2097184
> > hda: drive not ready for command
> > EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,1)): ext2_write_inode: untable to read
> > inode block
> > - inode=123913, block=262148
> > hda: status timeout, status=0x80 { Busy }
> > hda: drive not ready for command
> >
> > I have a Seagate ST38410A (UDMA 66, 8623 MB)
> > HD. Also, I tried disabling the power
> > management functions in the bios, but that
> > didn't help the problem.
> >
> > Any ideas? Any help will be greatly appreciated ...
> >
> > Yumin Lee
> > My e-mail is yuminlee -at- cc -dot- ee -dot- ntu -dot- edu -dot- tw
>
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lm_sesors' reading.
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 01:24:33 -0400
Dear all:
The bios and the lm_senors' reading are different... Which one should I
pay more attention to?
temp1: +37 C (limit = +60 C, hysteresis = +50 C)
temp2: +48.0 C (limit = +60.0 C, hysteresis = +50.0 C)
temp2 is the cpu temp...
If I reboot right away and check the temp from bios, it's about 55 C or
higher...
Sincerely.
Alex.
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:38:48 +0800
From: kaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: ***HELP! Fail to kill process during system shutdown
Hi all,
When I type "init 6" or select "reboot/halt" from the login screen
for shutdown, the system fail to stop all the process (named, sendmail,
httpd ...etc), I have try to restart some process manually(e.g.
/etc/rc.d/init.d/named restart), I can make surely that the process is
killed, but the system can't return a true to the script, it show up a
messages as bwlow :
Shutting down named: kill: (1415) - No such pid
[FAILED]
Starting named: [ OK ]
But I have check the pid for named before kill, it's 1415, when the
above process finish, pid 1415 is gone.
Can anybody help me to fix this problem ?
Thanks for your kindly attention and help
kaho
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ***HELP! Fail to kill process during system shutdown
Date: 1 Aug 2000 05:56:51 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Hi all,
] When I type "init 6" or select "reboot/halt" from the login screen
]for shutdown, the system fail to stop all the process (named, sendmail,
Sometimes it fails to kill a service because the service does not exists
(eg it died already or was never started.)
]httpd ...etc), I have try to restart some process manually(e.g.
]/etc/rc.d/init.d/named restart), I can make surely that the process is
What does this mean? Does your reboot occur, or does the reboot get
abandoned as well?
]killed, but the system can't return a true to the script, it show up a
]messages as bwlow :
]Shutting down named: kill: (1415) - No such pid
] [FAILED]
]Starting named: [ OK ]
It failed to kill it because it did not exist ( or died between the time
it was checked and the kill was tried.)
]But I have check the pid for named before kill, it's 1415, when the
]above process finish, pid 1415 is gone.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:14:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 02:06:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sergey
Gimanov) wrote:
> Hi there, everyone.
>
>Well, that was the first time I've upgraded my kernel from 2.2.12 to
>2.2.16 (I'm going to use ReiserFS). I usually make a monolyth kernel,
>but there are some modules that cannot be recompiled, such as
>bsd_comp. So I've a question: how to recompile those modules, because
>when I use modules from my old kernel, it says "Incorrect version".
When you config your kernel (using make config for example), you
select to use "modules", then select what you want to put into
modules. Then you give a make modules and make modules_install to
make and install the modules.
But I suggest you check also the HOWTO that came with your
distribution, since there can be something different (distrib.
specific).
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Unexpected daily disk activity...
Date: 1 Aug 2000 06:25:39 GMT
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:06:01 -0700, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Every day, at 4:00 AM, I experience a lot of disk activity. I have
Look in /etc/crontab for the line
02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
This runs the command "run-parts /etc/cron.daily" every day at 04:02. What
run-parts does is run every executable script in the specified directory.
You can stop a script from running by turning off the executable bits:
chmod -x foo.sh
Dave Cook
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From: John Broadhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Building a Linux Server from scratch: Experiences?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:33:13 -0600
> ' Actually don't get mad about this if it's a UDMA-66 cable. For some
> ' strange reason that's how they're supposed to be.
>
> You're kidding me! Aren't you? The replacement cables that I bought
> did not have such a cut. Or is the cut done differently?
>
No, really I'm serious. There are two types of IDE cables. The original
40 conductor type, which are good up to UDMA-33, and the new 80
conductor, yet 40 pin ones. Don't ask me why it has 80 conductors if it
only has 40 pins, since I don't know.
I have one of each type of cables in my hand right now. The UDMA-66 has
much thinner conductors on it's ribbon section. There are also a total
of 80 of them. The UDMA-33 cable has thicker conductors and there are
only 40 of them. The shape and size of each plug on the cables is
identical, 40-pins with a key.
The UDMA-33 cable has continuous conductors, which run unbroken from one
end to the other. The UDMA-66 cable has conductor #67 (starting with 1
at the red wire) notched on the computer end. In other words, about 1/4
inch of the 67th wire is missing. This is the way every UDMA-66 cable I
have ever seen is made. I guess that the system uses it to detect
whether the cable is UDMA-33 or 66.
A UDMA-66 hard drive connected to a motherboard capable of UDMA-66 with
a UDMA-33 cable will only operate in UDMA-33 mode. So if you replacement
cable is the older 40 conductor type, I'd try getting your cut one back.
Someone need to make some sort of instruction book about this stuff. I
thought the exact same thing the first time I saw a UDMA-66 cable.
-John
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From: saggi69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't access samba share
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 06:30:04 GMT
Have a samba 2.0.6 (Red Hat 6.2), a Win95, win98. Using WinNT4.0 SP6 as
the password server. I shared 2 directories. The one that has guest ok =
yes I can access. But the one with selective access I keep getting a
request for password. Here's my smb.conf:
[global]
password server = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
security = server
encrypt passwords = yes
[public]
path = /common/public
writeable = yes
[test]
writeable = yes
broweable = yes
valid users = accounts
admin users = admin
I actually did this in accordance with LinuxBoy's suggestion in "Domain
Admins group access in Samba"
(http://www.help.com/cgi-perl/question/2/191/226/537/713/728?tag=st.hp.usen
et.q-50&sidx=1954852&from=/cat/2/191/226/537/713/728/usenet2.html)
Anyone have any ideas?
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http://www.help.com/
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From: "Elmer Fudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,alt.nl.comp.os.ms-windows,alt.nl.comp.os.ms-windows.nt,alt.nl.comp.os.netware,alt.uu.comp.os
Subject: Re: Come to my Linux's Website!
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:09:24 +0200
Geport naar Linus? :-)
"Maarten W.G. Andriessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8m4lfr$2hk8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Sam Tang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8m2ktk$27o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Come to my Linux's Website!
> > http://www.asia-comp.net/linuxcity/
>
> ....he said while posting in Windows with Microsoft Outlook Express ;-)))
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
>
> *busted*
>
> Maarten
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Which IDE linux C programers use?
Date: 1 Aug 2000 06:41:51 GMT
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:48:16 +0200, Luis Yanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Which are the IDE used by the linux C programmers? Free or not.
>73's de Luis
Most Linux programmers probably just use the editor of their choice plus
various tools. See
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/developer/library/dev-linux.html?dwzone=linux
Dave Cook
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