Linux-Misc Digest #458, Volume #25 Tue, 15 Aug 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: redhat or what? (philo)
checking root partition ("Ed Cheng")
Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: redhat or what? ("Jason")
Re: root $PATH in SuSE6.3 ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
apache and homepage ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: redhat or what? (Sajjad Zaidi)
Re: checking root partition (Dances With Crows)
Re: newbie: adding users/ changing passwords... ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
hard drive sleep (Rohit)
Re: apache and homepage (Akira Yamanita)
Re: redhat or what? (David Rysdam)
Re: Problem mounting Windows partition ("Michael Ware")
Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition (Dances With Crows)
Re: Dreamweaver port for Linux? (David Steuber)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
problem with laptop. (Alex)
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:23:05 -0500
From: philo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redhat or what?
i use red hat 6.0 and mandrake7.0...
there is very little difference...but the mandrake seems to have a few
extras and a few less bugs... i would *highly* recommend mandrake.
comming from a windows background i have to say i really hated it at
first...but as i use it...i keep liking it more and more...
there is a certain learning curve of course...but a real sense of
accomplishment.
quite honestly i had very few complaints with windows... and from all the
comments i have gotten i must be the only one to have run windows
everyday for a year with no problems worse than an occasional freeze
up...so saw no advantage with linux...
but the more i use it and understand it...the more i like it.
about the only reason i don't use it full time is because usb support is
not fully impemented...i tried (unsuccessfully) to install the usb back
patch. (i think it would have worked had i known what i was doing0
but the full usb support kernel will be out pretty soon i'm told.
Philo
>
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From: "Ed Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: checking root partition
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:35:05 GMT
Hi,
I ran the e2fsck command in single user mode to check the root partition. I
got the following message:
Setting filetype for entry 'log' in /dev (192385) to 6.
Setting filetype for entry 'fs-1' in /tmp/.font-unix (306596) to 6.
My questions:
1. Is there anything wrong with my partition?
2. What is filetype 6?
3. What is the meaning of the numbers in bracket?
But if I ran the e2fsck command in multi-user mode (only I login), I got a
lot of messages, like:
duplicate blocks found, block bitmap differences, etc.
The complete output is attached.
Are those messages normal when we check /root partition in multiuser mode?
Thanks,
Ed
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[root@localhost /root]# e2fsck /dev/hda8
e2fsck 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hda8 is mounted.
WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.
Do you really want to continue (y/n)? yes
/dev/hda8 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Duplicate blocks found... invoking duplicate block passes.
Pass 1B: Rescan for duplicate/bad blocks
Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 98762: 6519 6519
Pass 1C: Scan directories for inodes with dup blocks.
Pass 1D: Reconciling duplicate blocks
(There are 1 inodes containing duplicate/bad blocks.)
File /var/log/boot.log (inode #98762, mod time Tue Aug 15 20:11:03 2000)
has 2 duplicate block(s), shared with 0 file(s):
Clone duplicate/bad blocks<y>? yes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Setting filetype for entry 'X0' in /tmp/.X11-unix (2500) to 6.
Setting filetype for entry 'kio_0_718localhost.localdomain_0' in /tmp
(176353) to 6.
Setting filetype for entry 'kfm_0_718localhost.localdomain_0' in /tmp
(176353) to 6.
Setting filetype for entry 'log' in /dev (192385) to 6.
Setting filetype for entry 'printer' in /dev (192385) to 6.
Setting filetype for entry 'gpmctl' in /dev (192385) to 6.
Setting filetype for entry 'fs-1' in /tmp/.font-unix (242980) to 6.
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Block bitmap
differences: -6521 -6522 -6523 -6524 -6525 -6526 -6527 -201265 -201266 -201
267 -201268 -201269 -201270 -201271 -395289 -395290 -395291 -395292 -395293
-395294 -395295
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #0 (26297, counted=26304).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #6 (28084, counted=28091).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #12 (30702, counted=30709).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong (454436, counted=454457).
Fix<y>? yes
/dev/hda8: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
/dev/hda8: 50099/320640 files (0.1% non-contiguous), 186127/640584 blocks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:41:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.security Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That prompt comes from your telnet daemon. I'm not using RedHat's
> distribution of Linux, and my particular telnet does not do what you
> are describing, but does do what you want.
Actually, in RH 6.2 it comes from /bin/login, which you can verify by
running it at the shell. Login will also print the same message at a
virtual terminal if you enter an incorrect password. So, most likely,
it's your version of getty which is "broken" by not using the system
login.
Really, as much as I hate this sort of advice, your best bet is to
switch to a less problematic method of automated logins than expect
scripts. There are a plethora of other solutions, including the
automatic login feature found in the telnet client/server shipped with
RH 6.2.
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Matt Gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Jason" <Jason(AT)cyborgworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: redhat or what?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:01:53 -0500
Linux is a lot like ice cream, it's basically all the same, just different
flavors. The BEST Linux distro is the one that works best for you. What's
most important is that you not listen to any of the flame wars that
occasionally go on about which distro is the best and which just sucks. A
few things to keep in mind..
1. Every Linux distribution has had/ does have/ will have bugs. It's the
nature of the beast. Even the infamous 'Hello World' program has bugs in it
depending on how you run it. As long as users are unique, no program will
ever be perfect and bug free.
2. A successful compromise between usability and user friendliness has not
been reached by any Operating System. That is part of the reason why we have
options. Certain Linux distros are geared more towards the do-it-yourselfer
(slackware and debian come to mind), Others are geared for immediate use
(Mandrake and Caldera amongst others). Don't be scared to try a different
flavor of Linux if the one you picked isn't working for you.
3. World Domination can't happen in a house divided, so once you have
settled on a Distro that works well for you, become an advocate and not a
zealot. Tens of thousands of hackers poking at each others code will rule
the world with whatever vehicle is provided to them, it's Open Source that
will make the difference in the end. Not Linux or BSD or whatever the OS
wonder-kid of the month is. Try to remember that when someone invariably
approaches you with "You run Foo Linux 6.5? Why, Bar Linux 6.5 is so much
better!", Or the more common "dude that sucks, get a real OS".
So in short, you won't know what the best Linux distro is until you try a
few yourself. Linux CDs are becoming as common as AOL cds and, in most
cases, just as free. Grab a few, be prepared for a steep learning curve,
but don't worry, it levels out very nicely after a bit.
Good Luck.
--
Jason
www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root $PATH in SuSE6.3
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:18:13 -0500
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, MKalinka quoth:
~~ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:35:59 +0200
~~ From: MKalinka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: root $PATH in SuSE6.3
~~
~~ Hello !
~~
~~ The variable PATH after root-login looks like
~~ /sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin//root/bin... (sic)
~~ i need direct access to /root/bin, so which script
~~ has forgotten to put the ":" the right place ?
~~
That sounds like something simple enough to hunt down yourself.
It is definitely easy enough to fix without even knowing where
the error is coming from. I suggest you look for this one on
your own, you may learn something about the login process and
your system in the mean-time. Start with /etc/profile I would
think, (Unless SuSE does something wildly different than the norm).
Regards,
anm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: apache and homepage
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:21:13 GMT
I have compiled apache and now I can't find where it is storing it's
pages. It used to be /home/httpd/html but when I renamed the
index.html file the page still shows up. I need to know if there is a
file that I can look in to see where it is storing it's index.html
page.
TIA
John
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From: Sajjad Zaidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redhat or what?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:28:25 GMT
I would recommend redhat because it is just the right combination of
stability and ease of use. I find it easy to install and although it doesnt
have much extra software and flashy features, its quite stable.
Mandrake is a good choice if you want lots of software, optimized for fast
machines, but ive had several compatibility problems running it.
Caldera Openlinux has steep hardware requirements and I couldnt run it at a
decent speed even on a PIII with 64MB RAM. Otherwise it has a pretty good
adn stable interface.
Corel is quite nice. its easy to install and configure, but its not for
advanced users. I tried the first version and the installer was quite buggy,
but it seems to be fixed now. A lot of advanced features are hidden from the
average user.
Sorry for the others I havent mentioned.
Good luck.
SZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the best linux out there? redhat seems to be one of the big guys
> but can anyone suggest another linux? why or why not?
>
> Thank you
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: checking root partition
Date: 16 Aug 2000 02:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:35:05 GMT, Ed Cheng wrote:
>I ran the e2fsck command in single user mode to check the root partition. I
>got the following message:
>Setting filetype for entry 'log' in /dev (192385) to 6.
>Setting filetype for entry 'fs-1' in /tmp/.font-unix (306596) to 6.
>My questions:
>1. Is there anything wrong with my partition?
>2. What is filetype 6?
>3. What is the meaning of the numbers in bracket?
>
>But if I ran the e2fsck command in multi-user mode (only I login), I got a
>lot of messages, like:
>duplicate blocks found, block bitmap differences, etc.
>
>The complete output is attached.
>Are those messages normal when we check /root partition in multiuser mode?
You mean the / partition; /root is hardly ever its own partition.
Anyway, filetype 6 is a socket. The error message you get in
single-user mode is relatively normal--I've seen it myself a couple of
times, and it's OK. /dev/log and that thing in /tmp are supposed to be
sockets anyway, so nothing bad has happened.
What bothers me is the fact that you ran e2fsck on / while it was
mounted read-write! Multi-user mode by default mounts / read-write,
and running e2fsck on a read-write partition is Not Good. That's more
than likely why you got duplicate block errors and such. To mount /
read-only, do:
mount / -o remount,ro
and to put it back to read-write, do:
mount / -o remount,rw
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie: adding users/ changing passwords...
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:34:36 -0500
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Geir quoth:
~~ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:55:53 +0200
~~ From: Geir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: newbie: adding users/ changing passwords...
[ snip ]
~~ However, the "passwd"-command asks you to type the password, and I would
~~ like to be able to specify the password on the commandline; something
~~ like this:
~~
~~ "passwd newuser newpasswd",
~~
~~ this would the set "newuser" password to "newpassword". How can this be
~~ done?
[ snip ]
Yes, and someone has already replied with one way to do it...
However, I would like to point something out from a security
standpoint.
[anm@hawk ~] ps -ef | grep PLAIN
anm 2152 2138 0 21:33 pts/0 00:00:00 grep PLAIN
if your are concerned. If plain text passwords showing up in
the process table does not matter to you, so be it.
Regards,
anm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rohit)
Subject: hard drive sleep
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:45:24 GMT
Hi there,
My computer may be on for most of the day,playing MP3s,surfing the
Net,programming etc. ,so I would like to know - what's a surefire way to make
the HD go to sleep,and NOT wake up again? I use a sync;hdparm command,and it
does,but sometimes afterwards it wakes up again (and sufficiently long after
that goes to sleep again),but I don't want that to happen.What do I do?
Rohit.
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Search For Spock
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apache and homepage
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:46:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have compiled apache and now I can't find where it is storing it's
> pages. It used to be /home/httpd/html but when I renamed the
> index.html file the page still shows up. I need to know if there is a
> file that I can look in to see where it is storing it's index.html
> page.
>
> TIA
> John
Check the logs to see what file is being accessed.
/var/log/httpd/access_log
If you know where the configuration files are, you can check
httpd.conf and look at the DocumentRoot setting.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: redhat or what?
Date: 16 Aug 2000 01:51:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Best" depends on what you are planning to do. I originally started
with Slackware (from floppies) but quickly moved to RedHat (because I
didn't know how to manage my system). Now I'm seriously considering
moving to Debian just to try something new.
If this is your first time, I'd suggest RedHat if for now other reason
than that there are a LOT of people that can help you if you need it.
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spoke:
>
>
>What is the best linux out there? redhat seems to be one of the big guys
>but can anyone suggest another linux? why or why not?
>
>Thank you
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: "Michael Ware" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem mounting Windows partition
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:47:03 +1000
try mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win
where hda1 is the partition windows is on, /mnt/win is the directory to
mount it.
mike
Stanislaw Flatto wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>David wrote:
>>
>> I have a Windows partition at hda1. When I try:
>> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win
>> I get the message "mount: mount point /mnt/win does not exist." I'm
>> doing this as root and double checked hda1 in fdisk, but I can't
>> figure out what is wrong. Can anyone help me figure this out? Thanks.
>
>Read what Brian suggested and a side step do:
>man mount <enter>
>and read there what was limping.
>Have fun...
>--
> Stanislaw on Slak 7.1
>Slacker No.162760 on Linux counter.
>*******Are we having fun????*******
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition
Date: 16 Aug 2000 02:58:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[posted and mailed]
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:47:32 -0400, loco wrote:
>After reading this thread..... and the man page, it comes to my clear view
>that most linux users are fucking brainless twits who have no real desire to
>prove their OS's superiority, but rather their own. I wonder how many of you
>worthless bastards learned Linux totally on their own? My bet would be VERY
>few of you could do anything with it until someone held your hand for a few
>minutes.
Go to http://deja.com/home_ps.shtml and search for author "Dances With
Crows" in newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc between dates August 8, 2000 and
August 10, 2000. The command the original poster requested is right
there. If you can't be bothered to do that, it's below:
mkdir /mnt/dos
mount -t vfat /dev/hda9 /mnt/dos -o umask=000
(You MUST alter the /dev/hda9 bit to correspond with the DOS partition
you actually want to mount.)
BTW, I *DID* install Linux totally on my own, with only the distro-
supplied manual, the FAQs, the resources on linuxdoc.org, the stuff in
/usr/doc/, and a bit of previous Unix experience to guide me. Somehow I
managed to get things working without asking a knowledgable guru for
help. I wouldn't reccommend it to everyone, but it taught me a lot more
than I would've learned if I'd been asking someone questions every 5
seconds.
>I don't believe for one slim second that any of you will respond
>with any real help
Wrong.
>read/write mode, but that's ok. I will be proud of one thing that NONE
>of you assholes can ever call yours - I am willing and able to teach
>anyone and everyone what I know.
So are a lot of other people on this NG. Insulting everyone is no way
to proceed. There are a lot of other helpful people out there, but they
do get tired of answering the same questions over and over and over
again. Work in tech support for a few months; you'll understand.
Wanting to teach/educate others about "everything you know" is a noble
goal, but a damned difficult one. Are you up to the task?
I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is--hang out in
comp.os.$SOME_MS_PRODUCT.misc, and provide answers/support/education to
the most clueless/confused people you can find for at least a month.
Then you'll understand how some of us feel, and you will have helped
others out--everybody wins.
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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Subject: Re: Dreamweaver port for Linux?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:00:03 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight) writes:
' Applixware, StarOffice and WordPerfect all include the ability to design
' HTML pages in WYSIWYG mode.
There's no such thing as WYSIWYG HTML. And there is a lot more to
site design than writing a few documents. Publishing large amounts of
interesting content goes far beyond mere HTML.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:18:53 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> No. You Dickwart,
> Without having to finance the freenet. They'll have a lot more revenue left for
> other things.
Who would?
Let's parse that sentence more closely...
If freenet didn't have to finance freenet, they'd have more revenue left for
other things...
Nope... Sorry, doesn't make any sense what so ever. If they didn't finance
themselves, they wouldn't have any money. And they get their money from ME,
and fellow customers.
You really are as thick as pig shit!
> I'm just a whimpy everyday normal human being. Neither a superset, nor a
> subset of anything. :-)
Yup, as suspected, you are as thick as pigshit...
You don't even understand elementary set theory... You know Venn diagrams?
(We did that in junior school)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:21:48 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> I comprehend human languages with my brain, without needing any help from any
> parsing program.
No you don't. Either that or you're deliberately misreading everythig I type
in plain english.
I was calling YOU the parsing program... And a third rate one at that.
That's one of the functions of a "bot".
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with laptop.
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:07:47 -0400
Dear All:
I have install Red Hat 6.2 on WinBook XL2. I have a strange problem with
it. If I leave the computer on all night long, the screen goes blank.
The keyboard is not responding.
When running with Red Hat 6.1 (previous configuration), this problem
also exist...) If I press the power bottom and release it right away the
screen would blink and go back to blank. I can see the desktop when it
blinks...
I have disable all the power management in the BIOS except "Beep when
the battery is low."
In addition, I have disabe "apmd" and "xapm". It helps a little but not
much (stay up longer.)
I can telnet to the machine and kill X without powering down. This
boots me from my session and I can log in and continue with life as
normal.
XFree version is 3.3.6-20
Thanks.
Alex.
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