Linux-Misc Digest #498, Volume #25               Sat, 19 Aug 00 20:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: looking for linux compatible external modem (M. Buchenrieder)
  EVENT: Linux Users' Group of Davis, August 21 - Perl Basics (William Kendrick)
  which libs for CAD rpogram? (Marcus Woletz)
  Re: ftp guest user cannot see files??? ("David K. Means")
  Re: Dialup routing (MKalinka)
  Re: Best Linux Distribution (NoMadis)
  Problem Frontpage-Apache (Frank)
  Re: Severe booting / filesystem problem (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  Re: Installing 2nd hard disk (Dances With Crows)
  Sound Card (Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=E9chard?=)
  Re: newsgroup reader??? (Don Grbac)
  Re: looking for linux compatible external modem (The Good Doctor)
  Configuring the internet ("WME")
  Troubleshooting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Does cdrecord really work with IDE CD-R?? (root)
  Re: STTY and ERASE (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Troubleshooting (Dances With Crows)
  Re: STTY and ERASE (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: bash (-ljl-)
  Problems configuring sound (mlq)
  Re: which libs for CAD rpogram? ("Eduardo =?iso-8859-1?q?Mu=F1oz?=")
  Re: Faxing with Linux (Glitch)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: looking for linux compatible external modem
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:59:47 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hypnotist) writes:

>model #005686-03.  

This is a standard V.90 external faxmodem.

>i couldn't get it to work.  i called there tech 
>support, and he confirmed it "does need the driver", and my model will 
>NOT work without the driver.. 

Rubbish. Even the USR homepage confirms that this model can be used
in DOS - without any driver; the HW requirements are just for using the 
E-commerce software that they're distributing in the bundle.

>then he gave me specific models that would 
>work with linux.

>now, don't say what i say is nonsense!

[...]

A standard serial modem doesn't need any driver. The only serial
modems that DO indeed need drivers were the RIP modems that were
sold some years ago, but these aren't available anymore. 

>From what I see, this modem should work just fine on any RS-232
compatible port. That's why I asked what you tried to get it
working.

Michael
-- 
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EVENT: Linux Users' Group of Davis, August 21 - Perl Basics
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:28:57 GMT


LUGOD, The Linux Users' Group of Davis, will hold its next meeting on:

  Mondday
  August 21, 2000
  6:30pm

The meeting will be held at:

  Z-World, Inc.
  2900 Spafford Street
  Davis, CA 95616


The topic will be:

  "Perl Basics"
  presented by Micah Cowan

    Perl is one of the most popular scripting languages for Unix and Linux.
    It takes the best features from languages such as C, awk, sed, sh and
    BASIC, and supports both procedural and object-oriented programming.

    Perl is Open Source (ie, completely free), and is used heavily to provide
    interactivity on websites.  It works well with database software,
    such as Oracle, Sybase, MySQL, and PostgreSQL.


For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
schedules, etc., visit:

  http://www.lugod.org/meeting/



LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the
Linux Operating System which meets twice a month in Davis, CA.
Please visit our website for details:

  http://www.lugod.org/

                                    ###

-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/


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From: Marcus Woletz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: which libs for CAD rpogram?
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:39:11 +0200

Hello all,

I'm trying to rewrite a simple CAD program for GNU/Linux.
I've developed the program a few years ago for OS/2.
Now I've the problem to find a apropriate graphics API.
The lib should at least have the following functions:

1.) Path creation
2.) Area creation
3.) rotated text display
4.) bounding box calculation
5.) Hit detection

it doesn't matter if the lib is for kde, gnome or X.


I've looked at dgs, libart and tcl/tk.
dgs has all the needed features, but fails
because of ugly/buggy font display.
(Any other GPLed DPS-lib for Linux??)
In libart I've found no possibility
to display text.
tcl/tk has no feature to display rotated
text.

Or should I look at similar apps like
killustrator and rewrite the specific parts?

I appreciate any hints.
It's urgent because I really want to build a
ECAD program for GNU/Linux and need your help!

With regards
Marcus

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From: "David K. Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ftp guest user cannot see files???
Date: 19 Aug 2000 21:25:12 GMT

This is a feature of FTP these days.  You have declared that "guest" should
be treated
like an anonymous user (via the line: guestuser  guest), so the apparent
root of the file
system has been changed to /home/guest (as specified in the passwd entry).
I guess that
there are no files there, so a directory listing comes up empty.

If you want to give all guests full access to your filesystem, then removing
the guestuser
line is the thing to do; most times, though, it is a better idea to put the
files that ought to
be accessible to guests in a separate spot (/home/guest would do), and then
permit only
those files to be accessible (as you are doing via the guestuser
declaration).  If you
want to permit particular users to have greater access, it is a good idea to
give them
separate logons (ie, make them real users), so that you maintain some
control of what
is accessible to them individually.
"Devon Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:yTwn5.8956$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> When I logon as a guest user, no files/dirs are displayed.  But when I
> remove the user from ftpaccess and logon, all files are displayed but the
> user has full access to /
>
> Here is my ftpaccess and passwd files
>
> ftpaccess:
>
>     class   all   real,guest  *
>     class   local   real  *
>
>     limit   local   5       Any
>     guestuser   guest
>
>     email root@localhost
>
>     loginfails 5
>
>     readme  README*    login
>     readme  README*    cwd=*
>
>     message /welcome.msg            login
>     message .message                cwd=*
>
>     compress        yes             all
>     tar             yes             all
>     chmod           no              guest,anonymous
>     delete          no              guest,anonymous
>     overwrite       no              guest,anonymous
>     rename          no              guest,anonymous
>     delete          yes             devon
>     chmod           no              guest
>     umask           no              guest
>
>     path-filter     guest   /etc/path,sg    ^[-A-Za-z0-9_\.] *$  ^\.  ^-
>
>     log transfers anonymous,real inbound,outbound
>     log commands real
>
>     shutdown /etc/shutmsg
>
>     passwd-check rfc822 warn
>
> passwd:
>
>     mysql:x:102:235:MySQL server:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/bash
>     named:x:25:25:Named:/var/named:/bin/false
>     guest:x:503:503:Guest User:/home/guest/./:/bin/ftponly
>
>



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From: MKalinka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dialup routing
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:46:33 +0200

Jeff Davis wrote:
> 
> I would like to be able to set up my linux machine to route for my LAN
> (win98/Linux workstations). I would like it to be more than a proxy, if
> possible, like an ISDN router. It would be great if it would either dial
> on demand (and keep alive for a certain amount of time), or keep alive
> always. I don't know whether it is possible, but I would also like to be
> able to use 2 modems and two phone lines to double bandwidth. I don't
> expect the entire answer here, but a couple pointers/suggestions would
> be very helpful (links to docs, etc).
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff Davis

Try squid2, it's an easy to handle proxy.
-- 
Need some administrators or other little helpers?
Want a documentation about the basic OS ?
Then have a look at http://home.t-online.de/home/MKalinka
Grab in the deep to find more

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NoMadis)
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distribution
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:54:53 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 Luc Van Bogaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:05:37 -0700, MH wrote:
>
>>> Ok, it is no easy question, but which distribution is the best in your eyes.
>>> I search one that works well with GNOME.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>
>>You're right. It's not an easy question. It's a <stupid> question. Don't
>>you have anything better to do?
>
>You're wrong : there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers and
>you just gave one yourself.

No, _You_ are wrong. There are not alot of questions that would fall in
the category "stupid" but this one definitely belongs there.

some more examples of stupid questions are:
"what is the best car to buy?
 I want to drive with it."
"what is the best medicine to use?
 I want to get better"
"what is the best music to listen to?
 I want to have a good time"

and so on.

These questions invoke flamewars that just eat bandwith, and do nothing
else.
It would be better if the questioner would give some more info, like how
computersavvy he/she is, what its going to be used for, what he/she
expects, and so on.
So its not the question itself that is stupid, its that lack of
additional information that makes it so.


>So, any recommedations for a good (or let's call it the best) Linux
>distribution?

I think you are trying to troll here.

>
>Luc Van Bogaert
>
>


-- 
Greetz,
Joop
=======================================================================
 Joop Bollen.   Nuts & Bolts Department,    Nomadis Systems, Holland
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Fax: (31)-252-532489   PGP-ID: FFB003FD
We all live under the same sky, but we don't all have the same horizon.

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From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem Frontpage-Apache
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:52:00 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I have patched the apache 1.3.12 source with m$ frontpage extension and
have
compiled and installed the server under redhat 6.2

The apache starts up and says in the error_log:

[notice] Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) Frontpage/4.0.4.3 configured -- resuming
normal operations.

If I make a connection to the apache always the apache child process
crash
and I can read this in the error_log:

[notice] child pid 8088 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)

Have you a hint for me ?

Frank



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: Severe booting / filesystem problem
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:03:31 GMT

Jonathan McBrien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>So I've booted with tomsrtbt to solve the problem. My harddisk is 10Gb
>and fdisk -l shows:
>
>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1240 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>   Device Boot    Start      End   Blocks   Id  System
>/dev/hda1   *         1      212  1702858+   b  Win95 FAT32
>/dev/hda2           213     1024  6522390    5  Extended
>/dev/hda5           341      474  1076323+   b  Win95 FAT32
>/dev/hda6           737      800   514048+   6  DOS 16-bit >=32M
>/dev/hda7           213      340  1028097   83  Linux native
>/dev/hda8           475      490   128457   82  Linux swap
>/dev/hda9           491      492    16033+  83  Linux native
>/dev/hda10          493      623  1052226   83  Linux native

The kernel might number the partitions in another way than fdisk.

I do not know if it will show anything new, but you have the option to
get Findpart at http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/utilities.htm, do from DOS
or Windows:

findpart all +fat fp.txt

and post the content of fp.txt in a follow-up to this message.

Also logical partitions in a system containing DOS/Windows should be
linked in physical order.
-- 
Svend Olaf

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Date: 19 Aug 2000 22:06:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8nmmvf$nus$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.help Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : The drive on my Linux box is full.  I have an old HD I can put in, but I
>> : don't know how to configure Linux to recognize it and partition it
>> : correctly.  How is this done?  Thanks.
>>
>> Put drive in box. Boot system. Type fdisk /dev/hdb (or whatever) to
>> partition it. Run mke2fs  on the partitions after one reboot.
>> You have to reboot unless someone has worked out a way to get the
>> kernel to rescan the table ...
>Ohhhh...is that all?  Sounds simple enough.
>
>do I just set up the exact same partitions as on the present disk?  I assume
>the OS will then just treat each partition as one big one, regardless of
>which disk it's on, right?

Nope, not quite.  They're trying to add that sort of capability to Linux
atm; it's called "Logical Volume Management" or LVM for short.  It's in
beta right now--don't mess with it unless you know what you're doing!

Once you've fdisked the new disk and created partitions, you mke2fs
those partitions, then you decide what you want to go where.  If I was
in your situation, this is what I'd do:  First, take a look at the
output of "df":
/dev/hda1               995115    541478    402231  57% /
/dev/hda5              1011928    507072    453452  53% /home
/dev/hda6               396623     11888    364254   3% /var
/dev/hda8              3811374   3125326    686047  82% /usr

Just an example, but you can see that /usr is almost full.  So, what I'd
do is mount one of those new partitions somewhere, like so:
mkdir /mnt/other && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other
and then
cp -a /usr /mnt/other .  Of course, this new partition should be larger
than your old /usr partition, to allow for expansion.  You should also
change /etc/fstab so that /dev/hdb1 is mounted under /usr instead of
having /dev/hda8 mounted under /usr.

There's a useful document linked at the URL below:
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html

BTW, Peter, I've done "fdisk /dev/hdb", "mke2fs /dev/hdb{1,5,6,7,9}",
"mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/somewhere", and "cp -a /usr/local /mnt/somewhere"
without rebooting or anything. Everything worked.  This was with kernel 
2.2.10....

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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From: Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=E9chard?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Card
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:10:47 GMT

After I installed Open Linux I realised that my sound card was not=20
detected
I tried with the konsole/lisa but there is no sound card configuration=20
with lisa.

Can I install the sound card manually=20

Thank you

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From: Don Grbac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup reader???
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:15:34 -0400

Garry Knight wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Don Grbac wrote:
>
> >Gee, I kind of like Netscape Messenger!
>
> I couldn't find any way to get this to work as an offline newsreader.
> According to the Help file:
>
> 1.Select the newsgroup and then open
>    the Newsgroup Properties panel.
>    Click the Download Settings tab.
>
> But there is no Download Settings tab.
>
>  2.Check the box to select this
>    newsgroup for downloading when
>    you switch to offline mode.
>
> I can't check the box, because there is no box, because there is no Download
> Settings tab.
>
> I think they ported the Help file across to the Linux version, but didn't port
> the functionality.
>
> --
> Garry Knight
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hmm, I can't help you there.  I always use Netscape on-line since I have
unlimited usage on my ISP.  It would be a real hassle to try to read and reply to
Usenet off-line.  The new high-speed services don't even dial-in anymore; they
are always on.  I hope someday their prices will be affordable.

Don

--
[Continued Democracy requires Quality Public Education]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Good Doctor)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: looking for linux compatible external modem
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:30:21 -0400

In article <8nksgk$g2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> all these modems require special drivers to run, and most of them can be 
> loaded only via windows.  i'm looking for an _external_ modem that is 
> either linux (Red Hat 602) compatible or doesn't require drivers.  if you 
> have the manufacture and the model number, please let me know.  thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
  I use the Creative Labs Modem Blaster DE5620 on both  
Windows and Linux boxes with no trouble.

Doc
-- 
Remove - from address to reply

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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Configuring the internet
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:50:36 GMT

I'm using Slackware 7.1 and GNOME. I have configured the PPP Dialer ; the
DNS, phone, username, password, etc

I also configured Linux for networking using "netconfig", but I can't
connect to the internet. I get disconnected after username/password
verification. I noticed that the PPP Dialer has "username" and "remote
username". What is the difference?

Thanks
Please post only



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Troubleshooting
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:53:51 GMT

Hello all,

I'm going to supervise a workshop were some extent of the workshop will
relate to troubleshooting Linux (Red Hat).
I would like some tips on how to simulate errors in RH, of course there
is the usual set_a_bad_ip_address errors that is included in most
courses.
What I'm after is something that preferably isn't fatal to the
installation but is a bit harder then simply type ifconfig and find the
problem.
I'm not a trainer it's just that I know more about Linux than the
others so it fell on my lap to introduce my collegues to Linux.

Any input appreciated.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,mailing.comp.cdwrite
Subject: Re: Does cdrecord really work with IDE CD-R??
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:10:18 GMT

Arnold Selby wrote:

> /root/cdrecord/cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi
> sendcmd: retryable error
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> CDB:  55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00
> Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 00 26 00 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x26 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in parameter list) Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
> cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 40s

I've been getting this same error on my Ricoh 6200A (IDE/ATAPI).


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Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:13:12 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:

> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >i think this stuff comes from the card puncher days.  a lot of the
> >weird ascii control codes seem to stem from card whalloping.
> 
> This is now totally irrelevant. We aren't using punched cards
> these days. IME ^H as the default erase character is the
> de facto unix standard. If you are using your linux box
> standalone then you can work round its brokenness but if
> you remotely access other unix or windows boxes then it
> is obvious that linux is out of step.

no it's not.  bullshit lives on way past its natural life for
hysterical reasons.  using ^? is more common than ^H.  bad emulators
popular on microsoft systems seem to be the chief user of ^H.  we got
ascii from card punchers.  half the control codes are only of interest
to card punchers.  some can go either way as the restrictions due to
physics of card punching are relaxed by better hardware.
unfortunately when two ways seem equally good, half the world chooses
one and the other half chooses the other.

i do agree that ^? vs ^H and <cr><lf> vs <lf> vs <cr> are painful and
that some way to end this continuing pain should be found.  however,
no camp ever wants to budge.  look at metric vs inches tools in the
united states.  it'd be *much* easier to just pick one and go with it.
only the tool manufacturers and sears benefit by selling you twice as
many tools as you'd really need.  thus i am not optimistic.  look at
you maintaining ^H is the one true way; look at me declaring ^? to be
more correct....

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Troubleshooting
Date: 19 Aug 2000 23:23:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:53:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm going to supervise a workshop were some extent of the workshop will
>relate to troubleshooting Linux (Red Hat).
>I would like some tips on how to simulate errors in RH, of course there
>is the usual set_a_bad_ip_address errors that is included in most
>courses.
>What I'm after is something that preferably isn't fatal to the
>installation but is a bit harder then simply type ifconfig and find the
>problem.
>I'm not a trainer it's just that I know more about Linux than the
>others so it fell on my lap to introduce my collegues to Linux.

Breaking things and having others fix them is always fun, innit?
I don't know what type of troubleshooting you're training people on,
server/workstation/install+config of HW?  Anyway, suggestions:

0.  Munge symlinks in /etc/rc.d/rc.5/ so essential services don't start
at boot, have 'em fix without rebooting.
1.  Do a search on this NG for "X font problem" and try to repeat the
RedHat "can't start X font server" problem.  Don't know why this is RH
specific, but it appears to be.
2.  Mangle config files in interesting ways.  /etc/X11/XF86Config for
starters, probably httpd.conf as well.
3.  Trash the RPM database and have 'em try to install something.  Then
show how to recover from that.
4.  Provide everyone with a copy of Tom's RootBoot.  Nuke /boot/vmlinuz.
Have the students get everything back to a working state.
5.  Compile a kernel the wrong way--that is, without ELF binary support
or ext2 filesystem support.  Show them what happens.  Illustrate the
wisdom of keeping a known good kernel available in /etc/lilo.conf.

If you *REALLY* want to put people through the wringer,

6.  rm -f /lib/libc-2.1.3.so  and have them recover the system without
rebooting and reinstalling.  It's possible, but if anyone can manage it
without reading a basic guide to the whole process, they're seriously
good.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:24:04 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:

> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:
> >
> >> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >> 
> >> Then emacs is broken. ^H is in the ascii character set as backspace.
> >> If a piece of software cannot even adhere to the most basic standards
> >> then it should fixed.
> >
> >ironically, that was my first tack.  the vt100 sends ^? <del> as
> >opposed to ^H <bs> when you press that wide key somewhat above return.
> >since a vt100 sends <del>, i figured sun's attempt at emulation was
> >broken in sending <bs>.  perhaps your idea of a standard should be
> >fixed as it is that which is broken.
> 
> In linux the TERM environment variable is usually set to "linux"
> not "vt100" so what a vt100 does is irrelevant.

besides which TERM is for *output* on your screen and has
little to do with interpreting your keyboard.  many displays will
interpret <bs> aka ^H to move the cursor one step to the left.

to set interpretations for *incomming* keys, use stty.

> Most pc keyboards
> have a backward pointing arrow on the key above the return key.

most dec terminals have a key with <X] on it and it typically
sends ^?.

> Pc documentation invariably refers to this as the "backspace key".
> Given this I consider that any system which produces any ascii
> character other than backspace from this key is broken.

> The other problem with linux is that, by default, it uses
> a character other than ^H as the default for erase. Every
> other unix system that I encounter seems to use ^H as the
> default erase character.

you don't get out much do you?  the original unix systems where dec
pdp-X beasts almost always outfitted with a dec terminal.

> One can, of course, easily change
> the default but 1) this doesn't work _before_ one has
> logged in

sure you can.  i give you /etc/gettytab.  this may be different for
different versions and variants of getty.  man getty.

> and 2) you cannot always automate it because
> it depends on the system from which the keystroke originates.
> If, as I do, you login in remotely to many different systems
> then it is painfully obvious that linux is out of step with
> the rest of the unix world. 

i dunno about that.  i use stty erase ^? *everywhere* and haven't had
any trouble with unix systems yet.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:25:47 GMT

In article <8nk7os$p87$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there a way to access command line parameters in alias definition ?

There are some trick; but in general if you need to use arguments;
$0, $1, ... write a function.

  rpmx () { rpm2cpio "$1" | cpio -i -d; }

The above is globally defined in my "/etc/profile".  It disassembles
a rpm.

Usage: rpmx abc.rpm

After you edit profile, ... do: (source it)
  . /etc/profile

Note: If you get complaints, spaces are important in function
declarations.

Also, I believe $@ will pass all command-line arguments.  Check
"man bash", and "info bash".

Hope this is of some utility.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: mlq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems configuring sound
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:39:57 GMT

Hi,
    I just installed Mandrake 7.1 and I am  having some problems
configuring sound for my
Soundblaster 16 - Vibra 16 card.  Under Hardrake (v0.5.3) it shows the
following info for the
card :

Vendor : Creative Labs
Model   : ViBRA16X
MPU01 : Yes
OPL3    : Yes
DMA2/16 : Yes

I then click on Run Configuration :

Settings are :

I/O : 220
IRQ: 7
DMA8 : 0
DMA16/2 : 5
MPU401 I/O : 330

I Click on test and Linux talks to me !!! Everything seems fine. I then
tried playing an audio
CD !!! It worked ! However I cannot play system sounds, mp3, wav, au,
etc .... I cannot under because
The test works fine and  I hear the wav of Linus's voice but nothing
else except for audio CD's.

if i do cat /dev/sndstat there is not much in the file but it tells me
that the Driver is loaded as a
module. Here  is more info from that file :

Kernel is 2.2.15-4mdk
Audio Devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 <4.16> <DUPLEX>

That's about it.


Any help would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks,




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From: "Eduardo =?iso-8859-1?q?Mu=F1oz?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which libs for CAD rpogram?
Date: 20 Aug 2000 01:57:48 +0000

Marcus Woletz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm trying to rewrite a simple CAD program for GNU/Linux.

You could take a look (or even join) the Qcad 
projetc www.qcad.org
They have source code available.

-- 

Eduardo Muñoz

Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:08:49 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: Faxing with Linux

you should already have a couple fax programs included on the CD,
hylafax is one of them

Daniel Béchard wrote:
> 
> I use Open Linux 2.4
> 
> Can we send fax with Linux?
> If yes, how?
> 
> With Windows I used Winfax

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