Linux-Misc Digest #503, Volume #25 Sun, 20 Aug 00 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
gcc problems ("Bosco Curtu")
Re: FTP message Question (Garry Knight)
Re: New Palmtop running Linux! (Garry Knight)
Re: looking for linux compatible external modem (M. Buchenrieder)
Regaining control of a process (Eugene Kang)
Re: newsgroup reader??? (kristian ragndahl)
Re: How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode? (Stefan Soos)
Re: Installing 2nd hard disk (M. Buchenrieder)
[Fwd: CDRECORD Problem with RH6.1 and Sony CRX145SBK] (Shyam Govardhan)
Reality Check - NY Times Article ("Buck Turgidson")
Re: Troubleshooting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
LILO re-install question (Neuhoff)
Re: Win4Lin: anyone use it with Micro$oft Outlook on Exchange? (Adam Finkelstein)
Re: Newbie question: Dont want to use ./ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Bosco Curtu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc problems
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:47:08 +0100
Hi, I am doing my thesis for the university. Actually I did it, it was an
application that run in a UltraSparc, with Solaris... The application is in
C and TCL/TK
Now I want to make it run in LINUX, and I have some problems when I try to
compile. If you could help me with anyone of them, please...
I am using gcc version egcs-2.91.66., but I have no idea which version is
UltraSparc's one.
1. When I compiled in UltraSparc I used -G option. What is it for? What is
the equivalent in Linux gcc?
2. I also used -R option, but I think I should use -l, to link libraries,
shouldn't it?
3. The biggest problem I have is the next one: when I compile any program (a
simple "hello world" for example), with: gcc hello.c, it reports me an
error: /usr/bin/ld error: cannot open crti.o
What is it? (my ld version is 2.9.1)
4. Perhaps my problems come from the standard C library. I don't know where
it should be, but I am using one I have found in /usr/i586-glibc20-linux.
What is this lib or package???? How can I set the library up to work with it
correctly (currently, to compile "hello world", I have to write
gcc -I/usr/i586-glibc20-linux hello.c.
So, if you could help me, I'd be very grateful
Thanks a lot.
BOSCO
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP message Question
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:18:43 +0100
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Default User wrote:
>I'm interested in changing the "password" message that appears when logging
>in as user "ftp" (anonymous)
>it says, "Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password."
>
>I have grepped and searched for this for a while and have been unsuccessful
>in finding it.
I'm pretty sure grep won't find it, even after you've logged on. The message is
issued by the remote host you're logging into. You could e-mail their sysadmin
and cross your fingers... :o)
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Garry Knight
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New Palmtop running Linux!
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:25:42 +0100
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On the subject of Linux PDAs, I've just seen one of the new compaq PCs
>running Linux. Very Impressive, check out www.handhelds.org. The problem
>is you have to rip the thing apart more or less to get linux on there and
>you can't go back to winCE (possibly a good thing?). There is hardly any
>software and all the x stuff isn't really desinged for 320*200 no-keyboard
>operation. It will be interesting to see what these things are like 6
>months down the line though.
Roll on LinCE, eh? :o)
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Garry Knight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: looking for linux compatible external modem
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 06:52:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hypnotist) writes:
Note: I don't want to say that I don't believe you. It's just
stunning me that an external serial modem should be a sort-of-
winmodem, due to the fact that the cost savings of such a beast
would be minimal. If it's external, why bother with writing a
specific DSP driver model for it ??
>it took all the AT commands and responded accordingly. it dialed, it
>even made the connection.
So it works. OK.
>but once the connection established,
>communication between the computer and modem stuck. it displayed "~ >q",
>and nothing could be done from there. even "+++" wouldn't work.
>also tested with a DOS box, same result.
This is likely to be a problem with the init string used; possibly
HW or SW compression. I once had an external modem (Zoom, me thinks)
that would not answer to any AT request in Linux. Turned out that
one of the S* registers was wrong, and only the Windows software
could cure it. After that, it ran just fine.
>that was why i suspected some sort of drivers were needed, so i called
>tech support to confirm my suspicion.
[...]
On the other hand, you might have had bad luck and received a broken
modem. This modem is definitely supposed to work in DOS without
any specific driver needed. The "driver" that the "technician" was
talking about is just a Windows *.ini file with appropriate
AT commands.
Michael
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From: Eugene Kang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Regaining control of a process
Date: 20 Aug 2000 10:22:34 GMT
Hi,
How do I regain control of a process that I lost control of when I got
disconnected? the process shows up in ps with a ? as the controlling
terminal. The process wasn't screened.
thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kristian ragndahl)
Subject: Re: newsgroup reader???
Date: 20 Aug 2000 09:53:02 GMT
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:42:17 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: But then, I also would find it a hassle to read news with a Web browser.
Certainly. Try lynx, lynx news://your.server (Not much worse than Netscape
though).
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kristian ragndahl, http://www.ragndahl.cx/
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From: Stefan Soos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode?
Date: 20 Aug 2000 12:51:15 +0200
Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi,
> I don't see that behavior on my RedHat system; I just
> changed it to do "date >> /tmp/this" (just so I could see
> that it responded) and it keeps on adding to the file every
> time I fat finger it.
>
> It maybe that your distro treats ctrl-alt-delete the same as
> "once"; you might try issuing an "init q" and see if that
> changes its mind..
Well, it's something strange here. If I hit CAD it prints a message.
After that I have to make an init u, otherweise the text won't be
displayed again. After init u I can hit CAD, but the text will be
displayed onyl once again.
Any ideas?
Thanx,
Stefan
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:13:55 GMT
[Non-existant newsgroup col.help removed - if your ISP's newsadmin _still_
carries this group, drive over to his workplace with a printout
of the last "checkgroups" message, and hit him with that. The col.help
group has been superseded by the present col.* hierarchy 3 - 4 years
ago, and should have been removed from the newsservers worldwide.]
[Note FollowUp-To: header]
"Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>"Dances With Crows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[...]
>> cp -a /usr /mnt/other . Of course, this new partition should be larger
^^^^^
[...]
>I tried this, but the copied /usr on my new larger disk seems to be missing
>files.
[...]
Right. Depending from the version and/or compile-time options used,
"cp -a" may or may not copy the "dot-files" in the various directories.
That means, all files with a leading "." will be ignored - which
includes most of the usual start-up files that the programs read
to determine the default settings.
cpio might be the better choice.
Michael
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From: Shyam Govardhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: [Fwd: CDRECORD Problem with RH6.1 and Sony CRX145SBK]
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:25:53 GMT
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Hi there,
I am trying to get CDRECORD to work the a Sony CRX145XBK CD-RW. The
following message is produced while doing a dummy write:
Writing time: 382.103s
Fixating...
WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
Fixating time: 0.012s
cdrecord: fifo had 3677 puts and 3677 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 3567 times full, min fill was 93%.
I am using X-CD-Roast Version 0.96x. X-CD-Roast just displays a message
saying:
"Some error occured. Please check process-output"
I have attached the process output for your perusal.
CDRECORD Version 1.9 produced the same message.
I would greately appreciate it, if you could shed some light into this
problem.
Thanks
- Shyam
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name="cdrecord.log"
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filename="cdrecord.log"
/usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96ex/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1 -v speed=8 dev=0,06,00 -eject -dummy -data
/mnt/cdroast_data/image1.raw
Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,06,00'
scsibus: 0 target: 6 lun: 0
atapi: 0
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 4
Response Format: 2
Capabilities : SYNC
Vendor_info : 'SONY '
Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX145S '
Revision : '1.0b'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : SWABAUDIO
Track 01: data 222 MB
Total size: 255 MB (25:19.65) = 113974 sectors
Lout start: 255 MB (25:21/49) = 113974 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 4
Is not unrestricted
Is not erasable
Disk sub type: 3
ATIP start of lead in: -11849 (97:24/01)
ATIP start of lead out: 336075 (74:43/00)
Disk type: Cyanine, AZO or similar
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
Blocks total: 336075 Blocks current: 336075 Blocks remaining: 222101
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 8 in dummy mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting dummy write in 1 seconds.
Waiting for reader process to fill input-buffer ... input-buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01: 222 of 222 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 233414656/233414656 (113972 sectors).
Writing time: 191.410s
Fixating...
WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
Fixating time: 0.024s
/usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96ex/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: fifo had 7124 puts and 7124 gets.
/usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96ex/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1: fifo was 0 times empty and 6119 times
full, min fill was 95%.
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cdrw.log
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Aug 20 02:09:00 XCDR 0.96ex: Setup: Configuration saved
Aug 20 02:09:20 XCDR 0.96ex: Setup: Configuration saved
Aug 20 02:09:53 XCDR 0.96ex: Setup: Configuration saved
Aug 20 02:10:08 XCDR 0.96ex: entering Copy Data-CD
Aug 20 02:10:38 XCDR 0.96ex: started
Aug 20 02:10:40 XCDR 0.96ex: entering Setup
Aug 20 02:12:05 XCDR 0.96ex: Setup: Configuration saved
Aug 20 02:12:10 XCDR 0.96ex: entering Copy Data-CD
Aug 20 02:13:11 XCDR 0.96ex: entering Master-CD
Aug 20 19:31:06 XCDR 0.96ex: started
Aug 20 19:31:08 XCDR 0.96ex: entering Setup
Aug 20 19:32:30 XCDR 0.96ex: entering Master-CD
Aug 20 19:48:16 XCDR 0.96ex: Master-Image: mastering to /mnt/cdroast_data/image1.raw,
masterdir=/mnt/hdb3/home/shyam/download
Aug 20 19:48:16 XCDR 0.96ex: Executing: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96ex/bin/mymkisofs-1.12b4
-o /mnt/cdroast_data/image1.raw -a -l -r -L -V "Grolsch Download" -P "Grolsch
Download" -p "Grolsch Download" -A "Grolsch Download" "/mnt/hdb3/home/shyam/download"
Aug 20 19:49:21 XCDR 0.96ex: Master-Image: OK
Aug 20 19:50:37 XCDR 0.96ex: Write-Image from /mnt/cdroast_data/image1.raw, 233414656
bytes, dummy=1
Aug 20 19:50:37 XCDR 0.96ex: Executing: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96ex/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1 -v
speed=8 dev=0,06,00 -eject -dummy -data /mnt/cdroast_data/image1.raw
Aug 20 19:54:03 XCDR 0.96ex: Write-Image: Some error occured
Aug 20 19:55:00 XCDR 0.96ex: entering Setup
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reality Check - NY Times Article
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:24:49 GMT
August 20, 2000
Why Few Funds Are Lining Up to Buy Linux
By DANNY HAKIM
Remember Linus Torvalds? Last year, the Linux operating system he created
was going to revolutionize the software industry, do more damage to
Microsoft than the Justice Department and make investors rich. This year,
Linux stocks have been in a prolonged downward spiral, and Mr. Torvalds has
been replaced as a media favorite by Napster's founder, Shawn Fanning, the
latest technologist viewed as most likely to wreak havoc on traditional
businesses.
Individual investors might see the depressed stock prices of the companies
that sell services and products supporting the free Linux operating system
as a buying opportunity. Last week, the stocks even showed signs of recovery
after a Linux conference in San Jose, Calif.
But a key problem remains: Wall Street is not buying the Linux pitch.
Professional money managers have done little beyond pocketing quick gains
after the gold rush last year of initial public offerings.
That presents two caution flags for the average investor: What is holding
Wall Street back, and how far can Linux companies go without institutional
support?
Consider VA Linux Systems. Last December, this Silicon Valley company, which
makes and supports Linux-equipped servers, gained almost 700 percent on its
first day of trading, the biggest gain ever for a public offering.
But only 24 out of several thousand mutual funds now hold the stock,
according to Morningstar Inc., while 35 hold Red Hat, the North Carolina
company that sells Linux-related applications.
For two companies that are considered leading lights among the Linux
stocks -- which also include Caldera Systems, Corel and Cobalt Networks --
this is scant endorsement.
By comparison, some of last year's other hot initial public offerings have
received a far warmer reception. Ariba, the Internet software company, has
158 fund holders. Phone.com, which makes software for cellular phones, has
132, while Brocade Communications, which makes the switches used in computer
networks, has 213.
Why the lack of interest in Linux?
"We're kind of indifferent at this point," said Andrew S. Cupps, manager of
the $857 million Strong Enterprise fund. "We've looked at Red Hat and VA
Linux, but we've decided to watch for a while."
>From the standpoint of technology, Mr. Cupps is intrigued by Linux. But he
and other professional investors question how much money companies can make
selling services and products around a free operating system. Even though VA
Linux's stock has fallen 80.8 percent this year, and Red Hat's by 77.8
percent, Mr. Cupps is concerned that valuations are still high.
So are his colleagues at Strong Capital in Chicago. Last year, Ronald Ognar
and Derek Felske bought 3,500 shares of VA Linux for their Strong Mid-Cap
Growth fund. They have since sold their shares.
"By definition, nobody owns the code, so nobody can sell it," Mr. Cupps
said. "They have to be creative and find other ways to drive revenue. The
way each company does that is through services. The irony is they're being
valued like software companies, but their revenue models are going to be
more like technology consultants."
John Hurley, a money manager at Bowman Capital, a $5.5 billion Silicon
Valley investment firm, said, "I'm not sure how this becomes a big,
profitable business."
To date, Linux has made its strongest impact in the market for servers, the
powerful computers that drive technology networks. But Mr. Hurley said he
believes that the chiefs of technology departments at many large companies
are hesitant to take a chance on Linux.
"You don't get paid to be a hero," Mr. Hurley said. "You get paid to make
sure that things don't break, and when they do break, you can fix them
instantly."
Bowman had a position in Red Hat at the end of June, according to a
Securities and Exchange Commission filing. But it now has no positions in
public Linux companies.
Eric Gerster, a technology analyst for T. Rowe Price, agreed with Mr.
Hurley.
"A lot of Linux momentum was dot-com-driven last year -- companies putting
in Linux to start their Web operations because it was inexpensive," Mr.
Gerster said. "But as they became real businesses and wanted more support,
they either bought Sun servers or a Windows NT server."
Technology investors do agree that Linux, with its open source code, has
tapped into a deep well of desire among young software developers, but
convincing Wall Street will be more difficult.
VA Linux, in its quarter ended April 28, had $34.6 million in revenue, up 71
percent from the previous quarter and 710 percent from the comparable period
a year earlier, but still lost 23 cents a share. The brisk revenue growth
has not been enough to convince more than a couple dozen fund managers that
the company is worth a $1.7 billion market capitalization.
"They're trying to figure out our business and our business models," said
Larry Augustin, founder and chief executive of VA Linux. "It's mostly a
matter of time, where people show consistent results."
VA is priced at about 22 times its last 12 months of revenue, cheap compared
with Red Hat's price-to-sales ratio of 78.3, but well in front of Dell,
which is priced at about three times its revenue.
"Is Linux for real? Yes," said Mr. Gerster of T. Rowe Price. "Will it
generate enough revenue to justify the market caps? I don't think so, and
that's why people aren't investing."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Troubleshooting
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:18:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah! Another good one to fiddle with is /etc/inetd.conf , naturally.
Or
> /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts (/etc/hosts == %SYSTEMROOT%\LMHOSTS if
> they like that better...)
Yes, one thing though, you use a hosts file in windows too, lmhosts is
used to resolve netbios-names over tcp/ip.
> >> 4. Provide everyone with a copy of Tom's RootBoot.
Nuke /boot/vmlinuz.
> >Haven't tried it myself, have to look into that, do you have URL's to
> >RootBoot and HOWTO's ?
>
> http://www.toms.net/rb/
> However, I spoke without thinking. Tom's can do many things, but I
> don't know if it can replace a compressed kernel image, since it uses
> libc5 and what I was thinking of might fail horribly. I was thinking
> you could do this:
> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt (standard)
> chroot /mnt /bin/sh (change / , run sh!)
> cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig dep clean bzlilo
> and just reboot after all that's over. I don't know if that'll
actually
> work, and I can't really test it out just now....
Ok, I'll look at the link.
> >> 6. rm -f /lib/libc-2.1.3.so and have them recover the system
without
> >> rebooting and reinstalling. It's possible, but if anyone can
manage
> >> without reading a basic guide to the whole process, they're
seriously
> >> good.
> >I think that is a bit over their heads, mine too at the moment ;)
> >I don't want to scare them so that they are reluctant to investigate
> >the OS any further.
>
> Yeah. If you want, I'll send you the original article that prompted
> that under separate cover--it's seriously scary, and shows that some
> people know too much about the guts of Unix systems....
Yeah sure, that will be interesting...
I know what you mean by people having almost to much knowledge in some
issues ;)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Neuhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO re-install question
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:56:05 +0100
I accidentally installed LILO in my MBR, disabling my
pre-installed Partition Magic Boot Manager. Upon de-installing
LILO the MBR got restored, however I am now unable to boot
into Linux (which is located on hda7 partition) from the PM Boot
Manager.
I need the Boot Manager because there are other OSs such as Windows,
OS/2,
PC-DOS etc. on various partitions, into which I boot as needed for my
work.
How can I make my already installed Red Hat Linux 6.2 bootable again
from
the Boot Manager? Can I somehow install LILO on my Linux root
partition, and if so, how?
Juergen Neuhoff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Finkelstein)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Win4Lin: anyone use it with Micro$oft Outlook on Exchange?
Date: 20 Aug 2000 07:44:43 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I contacted the Win4Lin project engineer. He stated that at this time, Win4Lin
does not support Exchange and MAPI. But, he has an engineer working on this
capability. If this feature existed, one would not need to purchase the slower,
though more capable Vmware to run Linux/UNIX and Micr$oft server via MAPI.
Adam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Dont want to use ./
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:04:36 +0100
David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:27:31 +0200, FREDRIK LINDSTRÖM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Porting a Tcp/Ip router from OS/2 to Linux RedHat 6.2 that I have written in
>>C. After compiling and the linking I can only run the application if I use
>>./ before the pgm-name. Is there some way to change this so that I only need
>>to write "PGM-NAME" instead of "./PGM-NAME"?
>>
>>Regards
>>/Fredrik
> Yes, safest is to put the program in one of the directories in your PATH.
> Or you could put . in your PATH, but how to do that depends upon your
> shell.
> For example in ~/.bashrc you could put:
> export PATH="$PATH:."
But putting '.' in your path opens a serious security hole.
So best not to do that.
One thing that is safe is to create a /bin directory in your home directory
and put things in there and add that to your path.
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