Linux-Misc Digest #509, Volume #25 Sun, 20 Aug 00 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Reality Check - NY Times Article ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: remove the start up programs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LILO re-install question (Dances With Crows)
Re: Upgrading an enternal USR Courier V.Everything *without* MS-Windows...
(Robert Heller)
Re: Linux vs Windows ME (Thomas Skogestad)
Re: How do I get Num Lock on automatically in X? (Fabian Gebhardt)
Re: Reality Check - NY Times Article ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: FTP message Question ("Default User")
Quick way of determining processor MHz frequency -> Linux kernel (Karsten Wutzke)
Sony CU98 USB Cam working on Linux ??? (jpajirent)
Re: Installing 2nd hard disk ("B. Joshua Rosen")
Re: Newbie : which Linux distribution? (Rod Smith)
PPM file through XV ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Quad Booting With Windows ME, 2000, SuSE Linux, and FreeBSD (Rod Smith)
Re: Reality Check - NY Times Article (John Hasler)
wavrec problem ("Al")
Re: window$ en Linux Netscape bookmarks connected? (Wayne Pollock)
Re: STTY and ERASE (Floyd Davidson)
mysql error ("Hello World")
Re: Some weird xterm behaviour! (Thomas Dickey)
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reality Check - NY Times Article
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:12:45 -0600
> Why should we fret
> if even 65536 funds dump their Linux-related holdings?
Because we'd be about to overflow a 16-bit integer on an old system? = )
steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: remove the start up programs
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:08:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rewur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> How to remove the start up programs ( like File Manger. ) that starts
up
> automatically after Linux is loaded.
> Please Help
>
> -Rewur
>
>
If you mean the programs that automaticly loads after you've either
logged in from X or just started X from command prompt ?
Just set the "save desktop settings" option when you logout.
The warning if you've logged in as root won't go away.
/Fredrik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: LILO re-install question
Date: 20 Aug 2000 23:20:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:24:52 +0100, Juergen Neuhoff wrote:
>Thanks, it now works.
>
>BTW.: What software is there available for usenet newsgroup access
>under Linux? I can't create a reply to this newsgroup message thread
>with Netscape 4.72, always have to boot into Windows and its Netscape
>4.70 version to do so.
Tons of newsreaders. slrn, tin, emacs on the command line, xnews,
knews, and PAN (the Pimp-Ass Newsreader, at http://superpimp.org/ ) on
the GUI side. Your distro should have at least 3 of those things
already available.
IMHO, Netscape's news client is horrible, not only in its interface, but
because to use it, you need Netscape running, sucking up memory and
crashing randomly. slrn is really full-featured, small, and never
crashes.
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading an enternal USR Courier V.Everything *without* MS-Windows...
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:25:40 GMT
Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:13:07 -0500, wrote :
BM> Robert Heller wrote:
BM> >
BM> > I have a 33.6/28.8 USR Courier V.Everything and I would like to upgrade
BM> > it to a V90 (56K) modem. The problem: I *don't* have MS-Windows
BM> > installed on my computer. Since a full version of MS-Windows costs
BM> > $189, with the added cost of the modem upgrade of $60 == ~$250, this
BM> > makes about $250. Which happens to be close to the cost of a *new*
BM> > modem... I can either buy a copy of MS-Windows, install it on my 345meg
BM> > C: drive (presently containing MS-DOS 6.2 and is mostly full of old .tgz
BM> > files) or buy a new modem. Yuck.
BM> >
BM> > Does there exist a version of the upgrade program for Linux? Does
BM> > anyone what the upgrade *actually* program does? This is an
BM> > *external* RS232 serial modem. What can a *MS-Windows* program do with
BM> > the serial port than Linux cannot?
BM> >
BM> >
BM>
BM> Does the flash program really require windoze ? I've never seen a flash
BM> that worked unless booted from a plain DOS boot floppy.
It is not the flash program that needs windblows. The US Robotics
modems can be flashed with any program that speaks XModem (and that
includes minicom). I have in fact already flashed the modem with the
latest firmware (using minicom under Linux). I did a 'strings' on the
'.XMD' file (what you xmodem download to the modem) and it appears to
have strings relating to 56K and V.90 and X2 (I found things like
connect strings for BPS rates > 33.6K and with V90 in them). The
problem is that this code needs to be 'enabled' with some sort of
'key'. To get the key you need to download a program named 'setup.exe'
(URL: http://consumer.3com.com/couriera/muw/windows/setup.exe), which
is a basic windblows self-installer. This installer installs some
windblows program that somehow takes one's credit card and docks $60
off and somehow installs a V.90 enabler key. I'm *guessing* that the
windblows program fires up IE or something to some
https://<mumble>.3com.com/ URL and then sends some *undocumented* AT
command at the modem, once the Credit Card transaction has completed.
Or maybe it uses the modem to dial some 1-800 number and then enables
remote modem configuration or something... Whatever is happening, 3Com
is not saying, except that you need to enable the V90 functionality
with either a Mac or a wintel box. I have even have this really dumb
statement from a 3Com tech:
"Until recently, the modems were not specifically designed for Linux,
although many of our modems are able to be installed on it. The Modem
Upgrade Wizard was only designed for a Macintosh or Windows Operating
System."
BM> --
BM>
BM> Bob Martin
BM>
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From: Thomas Skogestad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows ME
Date: 21 Aug 2000 01:32:01 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Movies are not free (unless they have gone through editing
| and are shown TV after the theatres have had their profits
| from them).
Edited in the US, yes. But not in much of the free world, where one has
free speech...
| Telephones are not free (one to one delivery of voice messages)
| because advertisers are still not able to interrupt you and
| place a "radio" ad in there.
I've made regular pay call for free using an advertising supported system.
Calls were interrupted every 30 seconds are each minute or such. The
companies that offered this have since (of course) stopped offering this
service.
| But if they can, or the phone you use has a flashing silent TV for ads,
| then phones will be free in the future.
At least _calls_ were free in the past.
| Movies theatres are not free (they can't interrupt you and
| stick an ad in there like on TV).
Thank God, or some other entity.
| Linux is free. There is demand. But Linux doesn't have a profit.
Huh?
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From: Fabian Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do I get Num Lock on automatically in X?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:45:05 +0200
My distribution (SuSE) turns the led off by default.
But there is an option for the keyboard driver (/etc/rc.config:
KBD_NUMLOCK="yes") which turns numlock on.
This works on every console, but in X numlock becomes disabled and back to the
console it's enabled.
I have an idea:
In /etc/rc.config you can set the tty for KBD_NUMLOCK and KBD_CAPSLOCK in
KBD_TTY. This is tty1-tty6 by default. But X runs in tty7. Perhaps thats why
numlock is disabled in X.
Try KBD_TTY="tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 tty6 tty7"
or KBD_TTY="" (for all tty's)
Give it a try and let me know if it works.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reality Check - NY Times Article
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:51:51 -0500
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Steve Wolfe quoth:
~~ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:12:45 -0600
~~ From: Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Reality Check - NY Times Article
~~
~~ > Why should we fret
~~ > if even 65536 funds dump their Linux-related holdings?
~~
~~ Because we'd be about to overflow a 16-bit integer on an old system? = )
Actually, you just overflowed it 0 -> 65535. :-)
anm
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From: "Default User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP message Question
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:59:01 GMT
yes my own ftpserver.
Thanks
"alex k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8npea1$8jl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i think he means changing it on his own computer.
> in his own ftpserver.
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Default User wrote:
> >
> > >I'm interested in changing the "password" message that appears when
> logging
> > >in as user "ftp" (anonymous)
> > >it says, "Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as
> password."
> > >
> > >I have grepped and searched for this for a while and have been
> unsuccessful
> > >in finding it.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure grep won't find it, even after you've logged on. The
> message is
> > issued by the remote host you're logging into. You could e-mail their
> sysadmin
> > and cross your fingers... :o)
> >
> > --
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> >
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From: Karsten Wutzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.asm.x86,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Quick way of determining processor MHz frequency -> Linux kernel
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:02:42 GMT
Hi all!
I've written a small timer that uses the RDTSC Pentium instruction. The
problem is: To be accurate, the timer has to know the processor's MHz
frequency! How can I determine that quickly, without having to probe for
X seconds? It would be good to determine the frequency at every startup
of my programs, so it's a good thing to be as fast as possible... I know
Linux determines the MHz frequency at boot time, so there must be some
source code available that already does that. Does anyone know where to
find that exactly?
Thanks,
Karsten
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From: jpajirent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sony CU98 USB Cam working on Linux ???
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 02:05:01 +0200
I have this cam working on my w2k computer (it worked pretty well on
w98 too), but I would like to make it work on my Linux box. Anybody
knowns
where I can find a functionning drivers ??
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From: "B. Joshua Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:09:08 -0400
If you have a dual boot machine then use Partition Magic to partition
and format the second disk. Then boot into Linux, Redhat 6.2 will
recognize the new drive without any trouble. You can then either edit
/etc/fstab to add the partitions or do it from linuxconf. Here is my
fstab, I added a second drive (45G IBM) last month. I partitioned it
into three partitions, /alt (3G to use for expertimental Linux
installations), /tools (15G for programs), and /user (25G for usere data
space).
/dev/hda1 /win98 vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw,uid=500,gid=500 0 0
/dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults
1 1
/dev/hda4 /home ext2 defaults
1 2
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 0 0
none /proc proc defaults
0 0
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620
0 0
/dev/hda2 swap swap defaults
0 0
/dev/hdb1 /alt ext2 user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 2
/dev/hdb2 /tools ext2 user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 2
/dev/hdb3 /user ext2 user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 2
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,owner,exec,dev,suid,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip vfat user,owner,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 0 0
Hiawatha Bray wrote:
>
> The drive on my Linux box is full. I have an old HD I can put in, but I
> don't know how to configure Linux to recognize it and partition it
> correctly. How is this done? Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Newbie : which Linux distribution?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:34:05 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Luc Van Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm an experienced user of OS/2 and I'd like to get a taste of Linux,
> with which I have no experience whatsoever, except for having seen it
> run on other users computers :-)
>
> I'm planning to install Linux on my old P166 which has 64 MB RAM and
> all legacy hardware.
>
> I'd prefer to buy a distribution with Linux on CD for conveniance and I
> was wondering what would be the recommended distribution to get.
This is largely a "religious" question, in that many people have strong
preferences that are based on subjective factors rather than objective
factors -- or at least, objective factors that differ from person to
person. I cover some of this, and provide my own opinions, on my web
page on Linux distributions:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
I expect to be updating the Corel, Mandrake, and probably Debian entries
within the next week.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PPM file through XV
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:29:01 GMT
Hello,
I am having a question concerning converting a TIF file into a PPM
ASCII file through XV: will the pixel value be changed after the
conversion? I notice that some pixel value is changed from 255 to 254,
I am not sure if that is because of the conversion.
Thank you very much in advance for any help!
-yuling
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Quad Booting With Windows ME, 2000, SuSE Linux, and FreeBSD
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:41:43 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jaspinwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ok.... I need some help here.... has anyone tried this
> config before???
Well, Windows ME is still new enough that few people have used it, much
less multi-booted it. As to the rest, yes, I've done all the ones you
list (and Win98, which I expect is similar to WinME in this respect). In
fact, I've written a book on the subject: _The Multi-Boot Configuration
Handbook_ (http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/). I had eight OSs running
on one system while writing that book (if you count two versions of
Linux as two OSs).
> Which boot manager should I use... LILO isn't going to
> work... will the BSD boot manager work??? Should I just
> enter the parameters into the 2000 Boot loader?? and if so,
> what parameters would those be???
The Win2K boot loader is more awkward than LILO, IMHO, although some
people prefer it. LILO is actually one of the most flexible boot
loaders around, although it can be non-intuitive to configure. Why is
it you think LILO won't be sufficient? If you want something that's
more user-friendly but very flexible, System Commander is very good,
but commercial. Boot Magic is not as flexible as System Commander, but
pretty easy to configure. (The DOS-based version 4 release of Boot
Magic comes with my book; version 5 is current, and includes
Windows-based configuration utilities, as well as DOS-based utilities.)
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reality Check - NY Times Article
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:08:24 GMT
Buck Turgidson quotes:
> "Is Linux for real? Yes," said Mr. Gerster of T. Rowe Price. "Will it
> generate enough revenue to justify the market caps? I don't think so, and
> that's why people aren't investing."
In other words, the success of "linux stocks" does not necessarily follow
from the success of Linux as an operating system.
Linux is not a company. The only way to "invest" in it is to use it. It
would be quite possible for Linux to displace Windows as the dominant pc OS
while the "linux stocks" languish.
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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wavrec problem
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:19:59 -0400
When I try to run wavrec or wavplay, I get the following message no matter
what command line options I specify:
Invalid argument: Audio block size (1024 bytes)
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From: Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: window$ en Linux Netscape bookmarks connected?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:15:54 -0400
I'm not completely certain this will work, but try this:
Locate your bookmarks.html file in Linux. Rename it or delete it.
Create a symbolic link to your Window's bookmark file. I have
my "C:\" fat32 partition mounted as /win98, but you should substitute
your path instead:
ln -s "/win98/Program Files/Netscape/users/default/bookmarks.html" .
(Please check capitalization first with "ls"!)
Note you can do the same thing with your email archive; just create
a symbolic link from "nsmail" (or whatever you named your email
folder in Linux) to Window's Netscape mail folder.
-Wayne Pollock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Vanmeerbeek Koen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > Yesterday I (or better a friend) installed Mandrake Linux. Now I have a
>Netscape-bookmark file on my Window$ partition and one on my
> > Linux partition and I'm wondering if it's possible to link (or something else)
>those files so that I'll have the same bookmarks on both
> > systems?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Koen Vanmeerbeek
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I am fairly sure that it should be possible - I have WfW and WinNT
> versions of Netscape now sharing the same bookmark file on a Samba networked
> share. Although I have looked, I cannot find out _how_ I achieved it. I
> can see no option under Edit > Preferences; Bookmarks > Edit > Select (I
> think - I am not in Windows at the moment) may do it, or perhaps it required
> a hack of a Windows .ini file. I am sorry that I cannot give better
> details.
>
> --
> Graham
> [Start] Where had you wanted to have gone today?
> uptime@bozikins 1:10am up 43 days, 5:00, 2 users, load average: 2.77, 3.10, 2.61
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
Date: 20 Aug 2000 17:18:55 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) wrote:
>Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:
>Fixing linux boxes for which I am sysadmin is no problem. The
>problem is that the default, out of the box, setting is
>broken.
>>
>>> and 2) you cannot always automate it because
>>> it depends on the system from which the keystroke originates.
>>> If, as I do, you login in remotely to many different systems
>>> then it is painfully obvious that linux is out of step with
>>> the rest of the unix world.
>>
>>i dunno about that. i use stty erase ^? *everywhere* and haven't had
>>any trouble with unix systems yet.
>
>MMV
How hard can it be to put "stty erase ^H" into your login profile?
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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Hello World" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mysql error
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:52:53 +0800
anyone has encountered this error in php/mysql?
"MySQL: Unable to save result set in ......"
do u know how to solve?
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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some weird xterm behaviour!
Date: 21 Aug 2000 02:07:21 GMT
Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Andrew N. McGuire quoth:
....
> Another note on this, that is definitely a bug, root on the remote
> system (or anyone with access to your pty) can cat a binary to your
> pts, making your machine print. :-(
indeed. in fact, they can do other amazing things such as move your
cursor around the screen, and clear the screen....
(it's also trivial for 'root' to simply reset your terminal and log you
off ;-)
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