Hi,
 I would say no. The X server isnt all too bloated if you use a lightweight 
window manager . Firefox, Openoffice, Xmms all use toolkits that need a 
backend X server to talk to. What gives you the impressions that X is that 
bloated? I would say just bite the bullet and search out a simple window 
manager. Sorry if anything doesn't make sense Im quite tired today, but I 
hope that answers your question.

On Tuesday 11 January 2005 02:41 pm, you wrote:
> This may seem really newbieish, but I have been running Gentoo for quite
> some time now.
>
> Is it possible to forego X altogether, and run things like firefox,
> thunderbird, etc through the framebuffer from a bashprompt, rather than
> starting X and going from there.  The reason I ask, is I hate the bloat
> of Gnome and KDE, and don't have the time to learn to configure fvwm or
> fluxbox, etc.  In addition, the X server has a lot to it that I don't
> really need.  This is just a personal desktop, and aside from setting up
> samba to share mp3's with my fiance's computer (across the room), I
> don't do provide any servers.  I also generally don't use any graphical
> utilities for setting up or maintaing the system.  The only progs I
> really use in X are, Firefox, Thunderbird, XMMS, Openoffice, and
> occasionally KDevelop... mostly for editing my fvwm config.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Jeremy Abbott
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> All is fine except that I can reliably "oops" it simply by trying to read
> from /proc/apm (e.g. cat /proc/apm).
> oops output and ksymoops-2.3.4 output is attached.
> Is there anything else I can contribute?

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a ballistic missile.

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