What about a possible shell equivalent of XMMS, or at least an mp3 player with a que, I already know I can run elm as opposed to Thunderbird? Also, is there a better (i.e. graphical) web-broweser that runs from the command line? The only browsers I know of are links and lynx.

Eric Bambach wrote:

Hi,
I would say no. The X server isnt all too bloated if you use a lightweight window manager . Firefox, Openoffice, Xmms all use toolkits that need a backend X server to talk to. What gives you the impressions that X is that bloated? I would say just bite the bullet and search out a simple window manager. Sorry if anything doesn't make sense Im quite tired today, but I hope that answers your question.


On Tuesday 11 January 2005 02:41 pm, you wrote:


This may seem really newbieish, but I have been running Gentoo for quite
some time now.

Is it possible to forego X altogether, and run things like firefox,
thunderbird, etc through the framebuffer from a bashprompt, rather than
starting X and going from there.  The reason I ask, is I hate the bloat
of Gnome and KDE, and don't have the time to learn to configure fvwm or
fluxbox, etc.  In addition, the X server has a lot to it that I don't
really need.  This is just a personal desktop, and aside from setting up
samba to share mp3's with my fiance's computer (across the room), I
don't do provide any servers.  I also generally don't use any graphical
utilities for setting up or maintaing the system.  The only progs I
really use in X are, Firefox, Thunderbird, XMMS, Openoffice, and
occasionally KDevelop... mostly for editing my fvwm config.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jeremy Abbott
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