There is athene desktop which does not use X. It's very fast. http://www.rocklyte.com/athene
To configure blackbox in ~/.blackbox/menu is a child play and takes just minutes and can be done a little at a time. If I have a need for gnome or kde which do have some excellent programs which I forget where they are I just type kicker for kde or gnome-panel for gnome and I have their toolbars handy. When done one can even minimize them so they are out of the way. Regards -- Peter - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs