On 26-Feb-99 Arandir wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Michael Stearne wrote:
>>Which is better, KDE or gnome?  From what I understand they both run
>>below your current window manager and handle other things like drag and
>>drop and clipboards.
>>
>>Also, as far as window managers, are there any that look like MacOS
>>(although MacOS X looks similar to NextStep, so they're getting similar
>>anyway).
>>
>>Michael
> 
> Hoping not to ignite a KDE/GNOME flameware, I will risk a response...

You may just get one :-P

> 
> I don't think GNOME is ready for prime time yet. KDE is.

What?
> 
> Here's where I feel GNOME is presently lacking:
> 
> Hard to install. I download a million files, try to install, and find
> out I need yet another library not in their download tree.

This is true. They need to fix this.

>  
> Applications don't work well together. Since this is the stated goal of
> GNOME, it's a big problem. The impression I get is that of programmers
> working in isolation.

No not true. 

What version did you try?

Applications work great together. You can drag and drop just about 
anything any where. You can even drag and drop to and from Netscape.


> 
> No window manager. It's supposed to work with any "compliant" window
> manager, but you end up with aesthetically challenged desktop. 32x32
> and 48x48 icons intermixed, multiple themes clashing, etc.

I am using Window Maker 20 (not gnome "compliant") and it looks great. I have 
gnome as a corner panel in the right hand corner. It takes up little space.
In fact this is what attracted me to gnome is that it was so flexible. 
Unlike KDE which you are kind of stuck with this HUGE panel.

> 
> No documentation. That I've found.

Did you look?

You might try www.gnome.org and look at the top of the page where it says.
"Users Guide" and FAQ and Getting Started.

> 
> With that said, there are still very usable parts of GNOME. And they
> can be used with KDE with little problem (and vice versa). Both parties
> profess that they're trying to make themselves compatible with the
> other, and I hope they succeed. Both being open source software, I hope
> they start stealing from each other.

I totally agree.

> 
> One final note. If you insist on using GNOME because it's somehow
> "official", rms approved, Gnu's in the name, or whatever, do a bit of
> research first and use your common sense. If it has to be official Gnu,
> then why are you running Linux? I escaped the Windows world where I had
> to use a certain desktop because I had no choice, to a world where I'm
> supposed to use a certain desktop because it's politically correct. Use
> whatever desktop you want.

And I chose GNOME!

> 
>  --
> Arandir...

Don't mean to start a flam war.
Will

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