Robert Hyatt                    Computer and Information Sciences
[EMAIL PROTECTED]               University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213                  115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station 
(205) 934-5473 FAX              Birmingham, AL 35294-1170

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Sketch wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Robert M. Hyatt wrote:
> 
> > its a manufacturing issue.  They don't do a special 333 (or 366) mhz
> > L2 for the celeron, they use the stock PII cache with 128kb rather than
> > 512kb.  Saves money by using economy of scale in production.  IE it is
> > cheaper to make 400mhz 128kb L2 modules than it is to make some 400mhz
> 
> It is a manufacturing issue, but that is somewhat incorrect.
> 
> The PII uses external cache chips in the same "CPU module".
> The Celeron uses on-die cache that is integrated into the CPU core.

this means the Celeron has a L1 _and_ L2 cache on the processor
die?  That is certainly something contrary to every other processor
with L2 they have built (ie the pentium pro, and PII's).


> 
> I suspect that the reason is that most Celerons are good for 400MHz or so,
> but Intel didn't want to cut into their profits of PII's at faster
> clockspeeds.  Now that the PIII is due out soon, Intel has released
> Celerons at higher clock speeds.  They are also undercutting AMD's prices
> on K6-2's.  Making less money for your products is better than someone
> else getting it instead, no?

very likely true...  marketing always wins over engineers.. :)



> 
> Sketch
> 
> 
> 

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