On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Robert G. Brown wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > > moment. The real question, Doug, is why doesn't RH provide "make
> > > install"-ready kernel sources in /usr/src/linux, installed by default,
> > > in the 5.2 installation? To quote from the GPL:
> >
> > It does.
>
> I must have missed it. I did a standard follow-the-yellow-brick-road
> install, and I could have sworn that all there was in my
> /usr/src/linux-2.0.36-0.7 was an include directory. Yup, that's all
> that's there even now. Now I know a fair amount about linux and know
> how to find kernel sources (or even kernel source RPM's) and how to
> alter them to build a custom kernel or an SMP kernel but your typical
> new user has no idea how to go about doing these things. When I say "by
> default" I mean "without a user having to do anything or even
> necessarily knowing that he/she made a choice".
You didn't miss anything... that is exactly what stock RedHat installs,
no sources at all. The source RPM is on the CD somewhere, but not always
easy to find either...
>
> Obviously I'm not alone in wanting this -- three or four people (so far)
> have responded that they agree with me. Obviously this wasn't done on
> the Dell systems that started the whole thread as well, or the RH
> support people could have said something like "Uncomment SMP=1, make
> dep;make clean;make bzImage, run installboot" and that would have been
> the end of it. Are the RH people perhaps not aware that this does not
> happen "by default" (as defined above)?
>
> The thing that really annoyed me at the time (when I first realized that
> I needed to build a new kernel) is that the default /usr/src/linux holds
> the minimal include, but doesn't even have the .config file and/or a
> README directing one to the "real" RH 2.0.36-0.7 sources or RPM and how
> to install them/it. As a RH novice I had no idea where to look for
> them. So I went to ftp.kernel.org and rebuilt from a clean copy (and
> did the 2.2.x upgrade ditto) making guesses as to the .config
> (everything possible a module, basically). Seemed to work (after I
> messed around here and there, guessing at what was done by the RH
> install process).
Never thought about it. Being a 'non-newbie' made this invisible to me,
but you are right. I get a fair number of questions about configuring the
kernel (I recommend redhat to everyone as that is what I use and I can
cope with the initscripts and stuff) almost always followed by 'where do
I find the sources?'...
>
> > The source rpm includes the base package as distributed by Linus, the PCMCIA
> > add ons, the various RH applied patches each seperated so you can if you wish
> > just apply a few, the and instructions for building it as is used.
>
> Good. Now could you arrange for the kernel source RPM to be installed
> by default when one does a standard installation? Or at least have a
> question pop up like "install kernel sources (recommended)?" in the
> standard install scripts? Maybe there was one and I missed it, but I
> installed two or three times and don't >>think<< that I missed it.
>
> rgb
>
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