I agree with you and Jhon Yi. Developing a soc is not too hard now, getting customers is harder and more important. I hope the market will force all China Soc company more open. But before that happen, I don't think they will become more open. They don't have experience in working with the open source community, if you want them to be more open, you need to do more communicate with them. And remember, to them, neither the law nor the spirit of free software, but making money is paramount. Tell them they will get more customers, make more money and prove it, then they will follow.
在 2014年10月11日星期六UTC+8下午10时53分48秒，Jon Smirl写道： > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:31 AM, jacky lau <i90...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > A big client will buy thousands of chips once. Are there any relation > > between big client and user manual publishing? No. So they don't think > it's > > necessary to open their private property. When you are a big client, you > are > > VIP, all document and source code is open to you. And if publish all > > technical documentation, competitors will know some technical secret > (e.g. > > bug;) they don't want them to know. > > Open world is beautiful, but they will not actively participate if there > is > > no return. Why some China soc company publish some documents and source > code > > now? I think this is mainly for marketing. But no matter how, VIP > priority. > > Right now Allwinner is only good for tablets and STBs because > Allwinner supplies turnkey solutions. If documentation were more open > other applications could be developed. If customer can't get software > working for these other applications, they won't buy thousands of > chips. So if Allwinner wants to survive past the end of the tablet fad > they have to start developing these other markets. Otherwise when the > tablet fad is over it will be the end of Allwinner. > > You also over estimate the value of "technical secrets". What is the > point of putting a secret h.264 encode/decode unit on the chip if half > of your customers can't get it working? Obviously Rockchip knows how > to make h.264 encode/decode since they have a similar unit on their > chip. And so does Freescale, TI, ST, etc. -- there is no big secret in > making h.264 hardware for people familiar with how to do it (hint, it > is an ISO standard). So by keeping the documentation secret you hide > nothing significant from your competitors and much, much worse -- you > keep your own customers from using the hardware they bought. Think > about it --- which is more important - hiding something form a > competitor that they probably already know, or getting your customers > to ship and buy more chips? > > Bottom line - which one brings cash in the door - secret documentation > or getting as many customers as possible to ship? > > > > > > 在 2014年10月6日星期一UTC+8下午8时55分30秒，RFat写道： > >> > >> Hi Kevin, > >> > >> Publishing the user manuals will certainly increase Allwinner's chips > >> popularity. > >> > >> I was wondering if there is a rough estimate as to when the A80's > manual > >> will be made available? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Raanan > >> > >> On Monday, September 29, 2014 12:46:53 PM UTC+3, > ke...@allwinnertech.com > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I have put the documents on github, and the url is > >>> https://github.com/allwinner-zh/documents.git > >>> Thanks Simos, Henrik and Luc's suggestion. And other documents will be > >>> upated to here when released. > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> Best Regards, > >>> kevin.z.m > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: HenrikNordström > >>> Date: 2014-09-29 08:46 > >>> To: linux...@googlegroups.com > >>> CC: sh...@allwinnertech.com; Meng Zhang > >>> Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner documentation (hardware > datasheet, > >>> user manual) for A10, A10s, A13, A20, A31, A31s > >>> sön 2014-09-28 klockan 02:18 +0200 skrev Luc Verhaegen: > >>> > >>> > Why didn't someone from Allwinner send these documents in > him/herself? > >>> > >>> The current person discussion the matter with Allwiner was Simos, who > is > >>> part of the linux-sunxi community. Allwinner sent current versions of > >>> the documents to Simos for distribution in the community. What is > wrong? > >>> > >>> Mailing the full set of documents as attachments directly to the > >>> mailinglist is not appropriate. And for some strange and unknown > reason > >>> Allwinner do not appear to have a public document archive for this > kind > >>> of documents themselves, and seems to only distribute them via email > to > >>> their customers when requested. > >>> > >>> The real question is why AW do not make the documents available in > >>> public themselves, and likewise why they do not have a public git > >>> repository for SDK sources etc (github or elsewhere). > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Henrik > >>> > >>> > >>> NOTICE: This e-mail and any included attachments are intended only for > >>> the sole use of named and intended recipient (s) only. If you are the > named > >>> and intended recipient, please note that the information contained in > this > >>> email and its embedded files are confidential and privileged. 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