Thanks!

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Raoul Guggenheim <[email protected]> wrote:

> Found this on the docs of 3G:
> http://insidetronics.blogspot.com/2007/09/teardown-ipod-nano-3g.html
> So it's a S5L8702 but I haven't found any documentation.
>
>
> Am 19.02.2009, 09:37 Uhr, schrieb The Seven <[email protected]>:
>
> > Yes, it can well be possible that the stack address of the data buffer
> > varies. I hoped it didn't, however, it seems like I was either wrong
> > there, or it has indeed an execution protection on the stack. That makes
> > it a lot harder. However, the notes files were generated for 2G, not 3G,
> > so it could be, that 3G uses different addresses at all. To confirm this
> > and to generate the files for 3G, I need detailed docs of the processor.
> >
> > Sebastian Schutte schrieb:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I checked another 20 tonight (35-55). No freezing, but there are timing
> >> differences. I then retried 27 and 29 to confirm that they did not show
> >> any effect. This time, they led to normal reboots! I swear that I didn't
> >> mess up on that one. Yesterday, they did not lead to reboots. But maybe
> >> the problem is that it seems very hard to reproduce the crash behaviour:
> >> The timing of the first crash, for example, always varies. When I try to
> >> enter the notes folder, it takes something between and eye blink and a
> >> second before the screen turns dark. Then I had the two files that did
> >> not work yesterday, but today. What does that mean? Can the overflow
> >> occur in a non-deterministic memory environment, leading to such
> >> different effects? I hope this is helpful to anybody.
> >>
> >> The Seven wrote:
> >>> If the 0x00s would have been a problem or the link qould not have been
> >>> recognized, it would not have crashed.
> >>>
> >>> Taylor Gordon schrieb:
> >>>
> >>>> Hmmm... SO so far, it seems that none of the notes have made the ipod
> >>>> freeze, right? I wonder why 27 and 29 didn't display anything at all
> >>>> though.
> >>>>
> >>>> @TheSeven: Maybe different opcodes with a '0' messed the file up? Or
> >>>> it
> >>>> didn't think it was a valid link.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Sebastian Schutte
> >>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Both files (27&29) opened, but only showed a blank screen. I could
> >>>>> open/close them repeatedly without reboot. I also noted timing
> >>>>> differences for the reboot duration. But I think we'd have to check
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> later systematically if no freezing can be observed at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Seven wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll double check that later today, but it sounds interesting...
> >>>>>> However, I expect the behavior to be generation dependent, so please
> >>>>>> make sure that all files are checked on 2G at least.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sebastian, were you able to view the content of the notes 27 and 29?
> >>>>>> What did you see?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sebastian Schutte schrieb:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I tested some files (25-35) on an Ipod nano 3rd gen.  Except  27
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> 29,  they only led to repeated reboots. No freezing so far. For 27
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> 29 there was no effect at all.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Sebastian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Taylor Gordon wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Update: I've tried note_0 and note_89 and they DONT work - so try
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> other
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 126 for now :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, The Seven <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The first test note files are ready!
> >>>>>>>>> Get them at http://taylor.fileave.com/lockup.zip
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There are 128 files named note_XXX.txt
> >>>>>>>>> One of them will hopefully make the iPod lock up or show some
> >>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>> unexpected behavior. If we find that one, we're a huge step
> >>>>>>>>> closer.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It could also be that it just takes longer (or even shorter?) to
> >>>>>>>>> reboot... So if one of the files shows a DIFFERENT behavior than
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> others, please tell me.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Placing multiple of them on the iPod at once will NOT work!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 3mpty schrieb:
> >>>>>>>>>  > 2009/2/17 The Seven <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3mpty schrieb:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Target address range is 0x22000000 to 0x2203fff (SRAM)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The second number is 0x22003FFF or 0x2203FFF0? A digit is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> missing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> (am I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrong?)
> >>>>>>>>>>> 0x2203FFFF, or rather a little below since our shellcode will
> >>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> nop
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> zone of 2KB
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm trying right now some text file.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 0x22 at the addresses where we need it (odd ones) will not hurt
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> unicode.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Oh, I forgot the endianess, stupid error, you are right
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Paolo
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