Page 18 has a diagram of the 3rd geneneration internals:
http://www.freescale.com/files/ftf_2008/presentations/China/PC112_SigmaTelMultimediaProductsiMXStrengtheningFreescalesiMXMultimediaEcosystem.pdf


Taylor Gordon wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Raoul Guggenheim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Found this on the docs of 3G:
>> http://insidetronics.blogspot.com/2007/09/teardown-ipod-nano-3g.html
>> So it's a S5L8702 but I haven't found any documentation.
>>
>>
>> Am 19.02.2009, 09:37 Uhr, schrieb The Seven <[email protected]>:
>>
>>     
>>> Yes, it can well be possible that the stack address of the data buffer
>>> varies. I hoped it didn't, however, it seems like I was either wrong
>>> there, or it has indeed an execution protection on the stack. That makes
>>> it a lot harder. However, the notes files were generated for 2G, not 3G,
>>> so it could be, that 3G uses different addresses at all. To confirm this
>>> and to generate the files for 3G, I need detailed docs of the processor.
>>>
>>> Sebastian Schutte schrieb:
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I checked another 20 tonight (35-55). No freezing, but there are timing
>>>> differences. I then retried 27 and 29 to confirm that they did not show
>>>> any effect. This time, they led to normal reboots! I swear that I didn't
>>>> mess up on that one. Yesterday, they did not lead to reboots. But maybe
>>>> the problem is that it seems very hard to reproduce the crash behaviour:
>>>> The timing of the first crash, for example, always varies. When I try to
>>>> enter the notes folder, it takes something between and eye blink and a
>>>> second before the screen turns dark. Then I had the two files that did
>>>> not work yesterday, but today. What does that mean? Can the overflow
>>>> occur in a non-deterministic memory environment, leading to such
>>>> different effects? I hope this is helpful to anybody.
>>>>
>>>> The Seven wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> If the 0x00s would have been a problem or the link qould not have been
>>>>> recognized, it would not have crashed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taylor Gordon schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hmmm... SO so far, it seems that none of the notes have made the ipod
>>>>>> freeze, right? I wonder why 27 and 29 didn't display anything at all
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @TheSeven: Maybe different opcodes with a '0' messed the file up? Or
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> didn't think it was a valid link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Sebastian Schutte
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Both files (27&29) opened, but only showed a blank screen. I could
>>>>>>> open/close them repeatedly without reboot. I also noted timing
>>>>>>> differences for the reboot duration. But I think we'd have to check
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> later systematically if no freezing can be observed at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> I'll double check that later today, but it sounds interesting...
>>>>>>>> However, I expect the behavior to be generation dependent, so please
>>>>>>>> make sure that all files are checked on 2G at least.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian, were you able to view the content of the notes 27 and 29?
>>>>>>>> What did you see?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Schutte schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tested some files (25-35) on an Ipod nano 3rd gen.  Except  27
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> 29,  they only led to repeated reboots. No freezing so far. For 27
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> 29 there was no effect at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Taylor Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> Update: I've tried note_0 and note_89 and they DONT work - so try
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> 126 for now :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, The Seven <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> The first test note files are ready!
>>>>>>>>>>> Get them at http://taylor.fileave.com/lockup.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are 128 files named note_XXX.txt
>>>>>>>>>>> One of them will hopefully make the iPod lock up or show some
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> unexpected behavior. If we find that one, we're a huge step
>>>>>>>>>>> closer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It could also be that it just takes longer (or even shorter?) to
>>>>>>>>>>> reboot... So if one of the files shows a DIFFERENT behavior than
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> others, please tell me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Placing multiple of them on the iPod at once will NOT work!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3mpty schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>  > 2009/2/17 The Seven <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3mpty schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Target address range is 0x22000000 to 0x2203fff (SRAM)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The second number is 0x22003FFF or 0x2203FFF0? A digit is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>> (am I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0x2203FFFF, or rather a little below since our shellcode will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>> nop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone of 2KB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying right now some text file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0x22 at the addresses where we need it (odd ones) will not hurt
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> unicode.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I forgot the endianess, stupid error, you are right
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paolo
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