On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Moonchild <[email protected]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 24-02-2010 18:32, Dos-Man 64 wrote: >> Yes, they are really spineless down there. Seriously, how can you >> have such an overwhelming percentage of your user base that is at >> least 3 versions behind the current version? It's as if everyone is >> still driving around in pintos and novas... I would have killed of xp >> a while ago (it is a monopoly after all.) > > Um, hate to break the news to you but do you really think that Vista was an > actual candidate for a real OS? It was like a beta forced down everyone's
Yes. I beta tested the RC's for it and Office 2008. It worked fine. Also, MSFT has one of the best bug-report submission tools I've ever seen in my life. The feedback they get from betas must be absolutely to die for. > throat on new hardware (and believe you me, I've helped plenty of IT people > downgrade from it back to XP). There is a reason why the life cycle of Vista Microsoft OS are always loads of buggy rubbish for the first year. Then applications and patches to the OS itself iron out all the little bits and it's relatively tolerable until they release some new feature that I need to code for that I can't get on the old OS (and then I start the process of moving into an unstable OS all over again). Right now I'm looking forward to playing with my ATI Stream SDK (1600 stream processors FTW) and DirectX 11 (which allows multiple threads to queue rendering commands - fascinating possibilities in that one!). I also got a 64-bit license this go around with Win7 as opposed to a 32-bit license (with Vista). That transition is adding a lot of thunking about as I figure out how truly horrible the transition is really going. It really makes me appreciate my Mac. Microsoft OS has to run on literally hundreds of millions of PCs with radically different hardware and software. It's a miracle anything works at all on it. You think about Mac, where all the hardware is Anointed by Steve Jobs. Or think about Linux, where drivers are rather hit-or-miss (either there's a driver for it, or you're at the mercy of someone who knows how to make a driver for it). Linux has its problems, too. For the first year Debian wouldn't support the mouse on my IBM ThinkPad X40 (2386-1CU model - God why do I still remember that number?). How long has fglrx/xgl been an unstable load of rubbish? I have had no end of trouble with xgl before - graphical distortions, braindead rendering code causing drivers to freak out and restart Xorg... Only in the past two years or so (when I finally switch to Mac, ironically enough) has xgl/fglrx gained stability. Or maybe it hasn't? The moral of the story is that THOSE WHO ARE ON THE CUTTING EDGE TEND TO BLEED A LOT. Use Windows XP SP 3 and you'll have a relatively pleasant experience. Same with Vista SP 2 now (if your machine can handle it). Use stale old Debian on a well-supported machine and you'll have a ball (I know I do on my webserver). Use Mac OS X on any Mac and you won't have issues. Use Windows 7 64-bit or Gentoo with unstable software or one of the OS X development seeds and you're in for a buggy, crash-riddled experience. So, to sum it up, your MSFT bashing is both naïve and silly. It's not a function of who makes the software, it's a function of how new it is. You can have a bad experience no matter what OS you use. > Also - do you think that everyone should just run right along with a new > several hundred dollar per seat license for every machine they own just If they want to use features which depend on that new software, yes. Is that much money an appropriate cost for that product? Probably. There's a lot of work that goes into an OS. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Scott Vargovich <[email protected]> wrote: > Guys, can we get back to talking about Linux - PLEASE??? But he started it! :P -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 For Faith and Family! | John 3:16! http://www.fsdev.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users Group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit our group at http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup
