At 09:09 PM 3/2/99 -0500, Rich Kulawiec said:

>> Um... WHICH community?
>
>The anti-spam community.

Which is composed of large groups of unrelated people with differing
ideas.  So we're back to the original statement, I think by Michelle
Dick: "reasonable people disagree on the definition of spam".

>> I consider THE leader in anti-spam efforts to be CAUCE -- the Coalition
>> Against Unsolicited COMMERCIAL Email.
>
>CAUCE's acronym is flawed in the abstract sense

Perhaps, but it's not an UNREASONABLE definition.  They're making very
good headway in choking off spam.  You sound like a reasonable person
too; you and I and CAUSE all have reasonable positions.  Yet we still
disagree.  I'm NOT saying you're wrong; I'm saying that Michelle is
right: reasonable people DO disagree.  To argue against that point is
to lose sight of the goal: eradication of spam.

I *do* agree that "spamming" to send out a plea for people to look
for a missing little girl is not commercial, but it is still the
wrong thing to do.  Should it be *outlawed*?  I dunno.  Should ads
for "wet hot teens" be forced on me?  No; and THAT *should* be
outlawed, just as similar faxes are outlawed.  Focussing on the
commercial aspect makes it easier to pass legislation, which I
unfortunately think is necessary.  Anyway, it's not worth arguing
whether or not reasonable people disagree on the definition, but
that IS obviously the case here!

(BTW: your belief that individual postings to mailing lists are
copyrighted is correct; the Berne Convention makes the copyright
protections valid across many continents.  A specific copyright
NOTICE in the message(s) is NOT required.  It wasn't worth a
separate post to say that, but you are indeed right about it.)

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