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How I sold my boss on FLEX.
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:29:32 -0600, Ken Ferguson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure, no problem. I keep saying that I'd rather use Flex, but I don't
> want that to give anybody the impression that I'm not impressed with
> Laszlo. I'm learning a lot about it and I really like what all it has to
> offer. It's quite powerful and it has the added "benefit", (yes, I know
> that's an arguable point -- can't use AS2) that is plays down to the
> Flash 5 player.
> 
> Also, to your other point, Macromedia says that while the license is for
> 2 cpus the average Flex project should really be run with at least 6-8
> cpus and you'll also need to double that, as you can't use the free
> license for your staging area either. So, it's not 12K for a real
> "Enterprise" setup, but more like $36K plus hardware for your production
> environment and at very least an extra $12K for your staging
> environment. Also, the development license is VERY limiting so if you're
> doing any real development like you would at an "Enterprise" level,
> you'll need an extra $12K to spend there too. Now we're up to a cool
> $60K to set things up the way MM recommends.
> 
> --Ferg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Joe Hammond
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Out on Flex and that's depressingly final!
> 
> I have the same reaction on Flex justification. Except I have not seen
> it for 12k. More like 12k and you have to buy 2 copies. Thanks for the
> tip on Laszio. I have not reviewed that one yet.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:49:44 -0600, Ken Ferguson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I'm very unhappy, but I think I'm finally finished with all of
> my
> > research on what direction I'll be taking as I really start to
> concentrate
> > on RIA development. It has, by no means, been a fair and unbiased
> study.
> > I've tried and tried to justify going with Flex, but despite my best
> > efforts, in the end I have failed to do it. I'll be using the Laszlo
> > Presentation Server and it is almost entirely due to cost. $12K is
> > absolutely ridiculous - absolutely and completely. I'm upset with
> Macromedia
> > about the whole issue. This is a relatively new area, into which I
> believe
> > they should be doing all they can to drag developers and businesses. I
> think
> > they're going about it all wrong. At half of the price, I'd still be
> on the
> > bubble to justify it, but I'd probably be able to do it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now that I've gotten that out of the way, who has some good Laszlo
> > experience to share? Any of you guys using it? Anybody had any
> troubles or
> > had to overcome any serious obstacles? Has anyone had any really
> > ground-breaking success using it with CF? I'm about to break down the
> sample
> > Dashboard application and build it all out for my own use. Has anyone
> else
> > gone at that one yet?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd appreciate any information or advice anybody has to offer and I'm
> also
> > open to hearing any of you Flex guys tell me why I'm wrong!
> >
> >
> >
> > --Ferg
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