I understand 12K is a lot and that's why I haven't mentioned it my
office yet. I want to wow them with something then mention how quick
it was to build and the time the employees would save using the
application and hope that would justify the 12k.

time = money.


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:27:08 -0600, Ken Ferguson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did read that and several others and I came to the conclusion that I
> would actually rather use Flex for any number of reasons. However, those
> reasons just don't add up to $12K and even if they did -- I can't buy
> it. My company (not talking about my day job, mind you) is a small
> company hoping to be big some day. I'd love to be all MM -- CF, Flex,
> the works, but I can't. I'm just happy that Laszlo is out there so I'm
> not entirely left out!!! My whole point is that while I'm sure it will
> work just fine, I'm upset at MM that I can't use Flex.
> 
> Also, I'm sure MM did their homework and knows a hell of a lot more
> about it than I do, but it seems like you could sell Flex for much
> cheaper and still make an absolute killing. Let's say the price was $4K.
> Imagine how many companies that can't (or just won't) buy it at $12K,
> could/would at $4K and you'd still be able to sell it to all of those
> companies that would have bought it at $12K. Obviously, there's some
> level below which this model falls apart and you begin to lose money in
> comparison. It seems to me though, in my most humble of opinion, that
> the price is just too high for what they're selling.
> 
> I think I'm just a little bitter about it is all.
> 
> --Ferg
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Matt Woodward
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Out on Flex and that's depressingly final!
> 
> I wouldn't say you're making a *wrong* choice with Laszlo by any
> means.  It's a great product and if you looked at both very carefully
> and didn't see the advantage with Flex as compared to the price tag,
> then I'm sure you'll do very cool stuff with Laszlo.  The guys at
> iteration::two compared Flex to Laszlo on their blog; do a google and
> you may find some insights on the issue.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:56:12 -0600, Clint Tredway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The reason for the price tag is who the target audience of Flex is.
> > The Enterprise Market. That market typically will not bat an eye at
> > 12K for server software.
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:49:44 -0600, Ken Ferguson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I'm very unhappy, but I think I'm finally finished with all of
> my
> > > research on what direction I'll be taking as I really start to
> concentrate
> > > on RIA development. It has, by no means, been a fair and unbiased
> study.
> > > I've tried and tried to justify going with Flex, but despite my best
> > > efforts, in the end I have failed to do it. I'll be using the Laszlo
> > > Presentation Server and it is almost entirely due to cost. $12K is
> > > absolutely ridiculous - absolutely and completely. I'm upset with
> Macromedia
> > > about the whole issue. This is a relatively new area, into which I
> believe
> > > they should be doing all they can to drag developers and businesses.
> I think
> > > they're going about it all wrong. At half of the price, I'd still be
> on the
> > > bubble to justify it, but I'd probably be able to do it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that I've gotten that out of the way, who has some good Laszlo
> > > experience to share? Any of you guys using it? Anybody had any
> troubles or
> > > had to overcome any serious obstacles? Has anyone had any really
> > > ground-breaking success using it with CF? I'm about to break down
> the sample
> > > Dashboard application and build it all out for my own use. Has
> anyone else
> > > gone at that one yet?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd appreciate any information or advice anybody has to offer and
> I'm also
> > > open to hearing any of you Flex guys tell me why I'm wrong!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --Ferg
> >
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