I personally wouldn't be surprised if the price comes down quite a bit
in the next few years.  This is a relatively new area and early
adopters tend to foot the bill for development of new technologies. 
When Longhorn comes out and RIAs become more the standard than the
exception, I would predict they'd have to lower the price to compete. 
Just a guess!

Matt


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:27:08 -0600, Ken Ferguson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did read that and several others and I came to the conclusion that I
> would actually rather use Flex for any number of reasons. However, those
> reasons just don't add up to $12K and even if they did -- I can't buy
> it. My company (not talking about my day job, mind you) is a small
> company hoping to be big some day. I'd love to be all MM -- CF, Flex,
> the works, but I can't. I'm just happy that Laszlo is out there so I'm
> not entirely left out!!! My whole point is that while I'm sure it will
> work just fine, I'm upset at MM that I can't use Flex.
> 
> Also, I'm sure MM did their homework and knows a hell of a lot more
> about it than I do, but it seems like you could sell Flex for much
> cheaper and still make an absolute killing. Let's say the price was $4K.
> Imagine how many companies that can't (or just won't) buy it at $12K,
> could/would at $4K and you'd still be able to sell it to all of those
> companies that would have bought it at $12K. Obviously, there's some
> level below which this model falls apart and you begin to lose money in
> comparison. It seems to me though, in my most humble of opinion, that
> the price is just too high for what they're selling.
> 
> I think I'm just a little bitter about it is all.
> 
> --Ferg
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Matt Woodward
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Out on Flex and that's depressingly final!
> 
> I wouldn't say you're making a *wrong* choice with Laszlo by any
> means.  It's a great product and if you looked at both very carefully
> and didn't see the advantage with Flex as compared to the price tag,
> then I'm sure you'll do very cool stuff with Laszlo.  The guys at
> iteration::two compared Flex to Laszlo on their blog; do a google and
> you may find some insights on the issue.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:56:12 -0600, Clint Tredway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The reason for the price tag is who the target audience of Flex is.
> > The Enterprise Market. That market typically will not bat an eye at
> > 12K for server software.
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:49:44 -0600, Ken Ferguson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I'm very unhappy, but I think I'm finally finished with all of
> my
> > > research on what direction I'll be taking as I really start to
> concentrate
> > > on RIA development. It has, by no means, been a fair and unbiased
> study.
> > > I've tried and tried to justify going with Flex, but despite my best
> > > efforts, in the end I have failed to do it. I'll be using the Laszlo
> > > Presentation Server and it is almost entirely due to cost. $12K is
> > > absolutely ridiculous - absolutely and completely. I'm upset with
> Macromedia
> > > about the whole issue. This is a relatively new area, into which I
> believe
> > > they should be doing all they can to drag developers and businesses.
> I think
> > > they're going about it all wrong. At half of the price, I'd still be
> on the
> > > bubble to justify it, but I'd probably be able to do it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that I've gotten that out of the way, who has some good Laszlo
> > > experience to share? Any of you guys using it? Anybody had any
> troubles or
> > > had to overcome any serious obstacles? Has anyone had any really
> > > ground-breaking success using it with CF? I'm about to break down
> the sample
> > > Dashboard application and build it all out for my own use. Has
> anyone else
> > > gone at that one yet?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd appreciate any information or advice anybody has to offer and
> I'm also
> > > open to hearing any of you Flex guys tell me why I'm wrong!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --Ferg
> >
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