Andrew and all,
Andrew Q. Kraft, MAIP, Executive Director wrote:
> Michael Dillon wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Michael Sondow wrote:
> > > I have looked carefully over the AIP website, but can find no information on
> > > the membership, organizational structure, or direction of AIP. Can you
> > > provide this information?
> >
> > This is basically Andrew Kraft's baby. It's one of those trade
> > associations whose main purpose is to create a job for the founder. Note
> > the vagueness of the term "Internet professional". They created a
> > certification program to certify Internet professionals so that it will
> > appeal to credential junkies.
>
> Michael,
>
> While I am one of the founders of one of the organizations that merged to
> form AIP, I would hardly call it "Andrew Kraft's baby". AIP had a
> democratically elected board (elections were held last May and will be held
> again in just a few months), on which I do NOT sit. I am a staff member and
> FORMER board member. I chose not to run last elections because no one
> individual should be both staff AND board. Its a conflict of interests being
> one's own boss in a nonprofit that must serve its members.
>
> AIP also has a full time staff of 8 running various operations of the
> organization from its active chapter network and ongoing chapter development
> to individual membership services to corporate member services, marketing
> and outreach, and more, so I would hardly say that AIP's purpose is just to
> create a job for me.
>
> As for the vagueness of "Internet professional", that is on purpose. AIP is
> a broad industry coalition. Why? Because its primary purpose to date has
> been networking on the regional and international level...and you're much
> better off networking with those you can do business with rather than just
> your competitors, as would be the case with a more niche membership.
>
> To clarify on your point about certification, you have been misinformed
> somewhere. AIP has not and will not create a certification program. Instead,
> we have a council of the major Internet industry certification programs out
> there to standardize what it means to be certified. This council ACCREDITS
> certification programs. You can find more information on THAT program at
> http://www.accredit.net/.
I checked this out very closely. Very sparse on information indeed.
There are some inconsistent and inaccurate comments on your page.
to wit:
The Council does not create curricula, nor
does it create tests. Instead, it examines the
curricula
and tests of training companies and educational
institutions for adherence to a common set of
standards.
The ACAC is a program of the Association of Internet
Professionals� (AIP�), the industry's largest
professional association.
FIrst of all how can you determine if a particular company has common
set of standards if there are no industry wide excepted set of standards to
judge any other companies set of standards?
Second, I would refute that the AIP is the industries largest professional
organization. How many members does AIP have Andrew? INEGroup has
over 85,000 for instance.
>
>
> > But, like Stef says, more grist for the mill. Maybe they'll come up with a
> > good idea or two.
>
> I hope you will review the AIP proposal at DNSO.association.org. I do not
> yet have the results of the meetings this week in D.C., but it is AIPs hope
> to work with the other groups that have created proposals, and the
> community-at-large, to develop the DNSO. I encourage you to post any
> feedback on the proposal at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BTW this is the first I have seen any posting regarding any discussion group
list that your organization has been having. I also noticed that there are
NO archives for that list as well. Hence no public record.
Al in all this seems fairly disingenuous from where I am sitting anyway.
Though I hate to agree with Michael on this, the evidance is pretty clear
that at least what you are stating about association.org, and inparticular
DNSO.association.org seems like a ruse from what we can tell.
I personally highly encourage others to investigate this AIP bunch
very closely themselves as well as review the archives of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list at www.dnso.org for further background.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Andrew Kraft
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> Andrew Q. Kraft, MAIP
> Executive Director, Association of Internet Professionals (AIP)
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone: 310-724-6589
> More Info: http://www.association.org/
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