On Mon, 31 May 1999 19:30:00 +0100, Jeff Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>William and all,
>
>  I am afraid it is difficult to follow your logic here.  If an
>organization
>is by design non-commercial it necessarily follows that commercial
>entities should not, in and of themselves be allowed as members,
>otherwise it is no longer a non-commercial organization.
>
>  On the other hand, commercial interests should be supportive of
>non-commercial entities to formulate their own Constituency as it is
>a healthy thing for the broader Stakeholder community as well as the
>long term health of their own organizations as well.  This makes
>IMHO, the actions of the ISOC questionable on their face.
>

No problem there.  My point is with the concept of non-commercial and
anti-commercial and Mr Sondow's confusion of the two.

The NCDNHC should not be run by :

1) Someone who lacked credibility in their person, so they created an
entity to try and get credibility.  (the proper way would be to have
credibility as an individual and use the entity to enhance and
contribute to that).  (This excludes Mr Sondow and the ICIIU)

2) Organizations who predominately represent the interests of
commercial organizations. (This excludes the ISOC).

Commercial interests supporting the ICIIU are doing so for the purpose
of trying to present a united front against the ISOC, and my
contention remains that to accept one evil in the name of preventing
another is not acceptable for something as important as this.

I again renew my call for someone else to assume leadership in the
formation of this constituency.  It should be someone mostly beyond
reproach (there goes Sondow and Heath), and yet with a solid grounding
on the noncommercial uses and interests in the internet.  

In a group like this, someone like Michael (who makes many valid
points inbetween the times he is putting and removing his foot from
his mouth) would be a valuable asset, as would others interested in
the noncommercial interests.

If others have an interest in this, I would suggest some nominations.

I have someone in mind, who would be most adept at this, though I
question whether that person would accept.

As you recognize in the above statement, even those with commercial
interests can see the value of the representation of noncommercial
interests, so I see no conflict of interest in commercial entities
discussing this, and would fully support efforts and policies to
prevent capture by commercial interests.



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William X. Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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