Joe and all,
Thank you Joe for addressing my question so promptly and directly.
We [INEGroup] are pleased to see that sunrise +20 is not to become
a policy with the .GOD gTLD. I hope that the DOC/NTIA and ICANN
can take a lesson from this wise and stability minded decision.
!Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> Sorry Jeff - forgot to address the rest of your question. I've been busy
> with people sending in so many queries to dot.god.
>
> On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > By the way does Sunrise +20 work with your .GOD TLD as a policy
> > Joe?
>
> That does not work with .GOD. Were not having any of that nonsense. We
> intend to operate a professional registry that will provide stable domain
> name resources and not the instability which is ICANN.
>
> Regards
> Joe Baptista
>
> > and variations of Crispy-songbird.god for me as well. Some of those
> > variations might be as follows:
> >
> > Crispybrain-songbird.god
> > CrispyCrockett-songbird.god
> > ect... ect... I think you can follow the direction here joe? >;)
> >
> > Reserve a few of those for Michael Graham as well would you be
> > so kind to do so. And bill me on the total amount.
> >
> > !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> >
> > > Shall I register it in your name Jeff? Or in crispies name? Someone has
> > > already register icann.god.
> > >
> > > http://god.pccf.net/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?icann.god
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Joe Baptista
> > >
> > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > > Joe and all,
> > > >
> > > > How does Crispy-Songbird.god sound joe? >;) Oh yes, of course there
> > > > are no trailing "-'s"... Is that ok with you Louis or Mike?
> > > >
> > > > !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 17 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As for Kent, well the bullshit flowith! Joe B. How about a
> > > > > > .GOD special domain for Kent and Songbird. I know you can come
> > > > > > up with something wholesome! >;) Send me the bill on the registration.
> > > > >
> > > > > songbird.god is taken. any other choices? or sunrise variations?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Joe ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Repoman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patrick Corliss wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I should rise above that but it's hard not to fall into the trap
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Been there myself unfortunately from time to time. :-(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > of fighting
> > > > > > > > the battle on the other person's terms.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Battle? The gradual TM lobby usurpation of the DNS has been conducted in
> > > > > > > a 'closed door' manner as far as I suspect the internet community at
>large
> > > > > > > and domain holders are concerned. I see little to no battle. Why fight
>if you
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > afford to insure victory by just buying it?
> > > > > > > Judge and jury are financed by trademark holders in the current internet
> > > > > > > arbitration scenario. If enough precendents in favor of TM holders,
>particularly
> > > > > > > if common language terms like 'songbird' are in place in the UDRPs, then
>that
> > > > > > > spells good (!$) business and invites establishment of more UDRPs.
>Ultimately
> > > > > > > (if not already) the consideration of the the position of an arbiter at
>any UDRP
> > > > > > > will also be based on his/her disposition on TMs I suspect.
> > > > > > > 'Never bite the hand that feeds you'!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re Kent: I perceive Kent in this forum by now as a bright and eloquent
>salesman
> > > > > > > selling something
> > > > > > > (the TM scam) you have to (currently!) buy whether you wish to or not.
> > > > > > > Nonetheless:
> > > > > > > Much like the rare successful sale of a refigerator to an Eskimo, I
>suspect he:
> > > > > > > a.) enjoys making 'the sale' the reference rather than the practical
>value of
> > > > > > > the item he sells.
> > > > > > > One Eskimo convinced is a sure fire reference for another Eskimo
>prospect!
> > > > > > > Kent would sell the 'energy efficiency' of the unit, 'as it does not
>even need
> > > > > > > to be plugged in to maintain food safety standards.'
> > > > > > > Intelligent Eskimos like you or !Dr.Joe and many others on this list are
> > > > > > > obviously
> > > > > > > bad for business. Roberts would seem to be a much easier sell -
>especially with
> > > > > > > a fat
> > > > > > > 'factory buyer rebate' easily financing the next ICANN trip to Nepal (?)
>in
> > > > > > > 2002.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > b.)he seeks ( I'd hate to sell Kent short) 'world domination' of
> > > > > > > the word 'songbird' in the DNS. He may just be sweating his little
>'songbird
> > > > > > > whatever' TM right about now. 'Songbird' is about as thin as it get's
>I'd say in
> > > > > > > TM and DNS.
> > > > > > > Ask any kid on the street what he/she thinks a 'songbird' is.
> > > > > > > Any word in 'Webster' (TM!) certainly has every and no claim on an
>address in
> > > > > > > the global DNS.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > FCFS! A premise that built the US, Australia and every other country I
>can think
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > off hand that has any global significance today. This concept is as old
>as
> > > > > > > sperm as a drastic example.
> > > > > > > ('Thank god for the big TMs up at ICANN, but I should at least try to
>sell an
> > > > > > > Eskimo here and there myself - if anything to convince myself by the
>endorsement
> > > > > > > of some real Eskimo.' type of rationale on Kent's part? )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Of course he still hasn't replied
> > > > > > > >properly to my 17 points.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are very few (if any) Eskimos on this list that would jump at the
> > > > > > > opportunity of buying a fridge I've noticed. As Heather already aptly
>advised:
> > > > > > > 'Don't hold your breath!' He can't reply compellingly to your points here
> > > > > > > (although I wish he would try). Now as before I find Kent a valuable
>testing
> > > > > > > ground of 'TM pro/con lobby argumentation'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please continue your thought provoking, IMO important and often truly
> > > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > comments on this list. Most reflect my exact thoughts (verbalized
> > > > > > > very nicely by you Patrick!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P.S.: I wonder how much it would cost to mail every domain(s) registrant
>in the
> > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > a brief opinion questionaire (even by snail mail (argh)- postcard even -
>no ppd
> > > > > > > return envelope necessary) on major issues under consideration by ICANN
>to get a
> > > > > > > feel for the sentiments of the net community? More or less than a trip
>to Berlin
> > > > > > > or Cairo or Santiago...? The internet is akin to a new global community
>whose
> > > > > > > opinions will be heard and the majority will prevail ultimately -
>hopefully with
> > > > > > > an 'enlightened'(!!) and globally democratic ICANN at it's helm (my wish
>with
> > > > > > > noted qualifications) but certainly also 'without', if global issues are
>not
> > > > > > > addressed fairly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > > > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
> > > > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
> > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
> >
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number: 972-447-1800 x1894 or 9236 fwd's to home ph#
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
