On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 12:27 -0400, Nathan Hamiel wrote: > > Nobody is saying that an IDE makes a programmer good. Nobody said > that. Tools are supposed to assist you in your job, make you more > efficient, and potentially point out mistakes prior to code going in > to production.
It can also be a like a radar detector on your dash. Which gives you a false sense of security and can make one lazy. > There are obviously processes in place that should also assist in > these efforts. There should never just be one control in place, they > should be layered. Agreed either way, no matter what tools are being used. > Security is one place where organizations tend to try this. They buy > tools and try to give them to inexperienced people and because the > tools are expensive they figure they can replace talent. Here we are > talking about tools that cost 30,000 to 150,000 a pop. In the > development world most IDEs aren't awfully expensive. Very bad assumption to make. Considering Macromedia had a product called Generator that sold for $30k back in the day to generate Flash server side. No clue what its price would be now with inflation. Developer edition was like $3k. > Eclipse, NetBeans, and others are free. KomodoIDE is like 265 which > isn't bad for something I have to spend time in every day. Ah but thats missing the bigger picture. There is a market place for IDE's beyond the free ones we all know and/or use. There are actually quite many intended for very specific purposes and rather expense per seat. The same goes for compilers as well, there are non-free ones. Depending on what OS you run, their might not be any free tools ;) Just to give an idea, but there are more out there http://www.pgroup.com/pricing/index.htm http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/buy-or-renew/ Horrible and only $12k http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/en-us/products/2010-editions/ultimate -- William L. Thomson Jr. Obsidian-Studios, Inc. http://www.obsidian-studios.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml Unsubscribe [email protected]

