I'm exiting this thread.....I've explained my position, yet it's painfully obvious that I am considered stupid by some for my pronunciation of certain words...
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Chad Bailey <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm pulling from ooold knowledge here, but if I'm not mistaken Linux > adapted its name from "Minix" -- mini-unix. This may explain the > method for pronouncing. > > Linus + Minix = Linux > > I don't know, but I've even heard of recordings of linus saying how to > pronounce linux so I'm sure of it (after all, he did make it). > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Martin, Patrick > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm going to start correcting people immediately and often. Regardless > of the fact that the guys I'll be correcting run thousands of instances > globally. :-) > > > > Thanks Gene! > > > > - Pat > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gene Cronk [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:28 PM > > To: Chad Bailey > > Cc: Joe Sam Shirah; list > > Subject: Re: How do you say "SQL?" > > > > For giggles, I looked up how Linus Torvalds' first name is > > pronounced....Considering the OS is named after him, we're both wrong. I > > pronounce it lie-nux (hard I), you pronounce it lin-ux (soft I)....but > > according to Wikipedia it should be pronounced lee-nux (hard E). Check > it > > out for yourself... > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Swedish_and_Norwegian > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Gene Cronk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I pronounce it Line-ux for one reason....The U in UNIX is a hard vowel, > so > >> I treat the first vowel as hard as well in Linux. As far as SQL, I > >> pronounce it sequel currently, but used to pronounce it squeal. To each > >> their own. > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Chad Bailey <[email protected] > >wrote: > >> > >>> Similarly, I typically reflect what people use when they speak to me. > >>> > >>> If it's me doing the talking though, I pronounce the letters. I am > >>> opposed to speaking acronyms as if they are words regardless of the > >>> circumstances "lul" (unless it's an instance where the acronym is > >>> intentionally made into a word, like "WINE"). > >>> > >>> While on the subject, I have a confession. People who pronounce linux > >>> as "line-ux" irritate me. It's lin, like fin... linux. I almost find > >>> it disrespectful, and do consider those who pronounce it in such a way > >>> less educated *shrugs*. > >>> > >>> The same thing applies to "nuke-ya-ler". When someone pronounces it > >>> this way, I instantly wonder "does this person know what a nucleus is > >>> or did they sleep through that in school". > >>> > >>> Just being transparent here, no intentions to upset anyone here who > >>> pronounces it wrong. You'll never get me to agree that it can be > >>> pronounced "both ways" though. In SQL's case, things are very > >>> different. It isn't in any way related to an individual's name. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Joe Sam Shirah <[email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > For peer/client usage, I long ago decided "when in Rome..." That > is, > >>> > "sequel" or "Ess Que Ell" depending on usage at the particular site. > >>> > > >>> > Technically, "Ess Que Ell" is correct. SEQL, Structured English > Query > >>> > language - pronounced "sequel" - was IBM's first go at an RDBMS > >>> language. > >>> > Later it was changed to SQL, pronounced "Ess Que Ell". Here's one > >>> link, > >>> > I'm sure there are more definitive ones out there: > >>> > > >>> > http://www.sad4ever.org/dbms/sql_en.php > >>> > > >>> > The first time I heard "sequel" was in relation to MS SQL Server; > they > >>> > apparently thought it sounded cool after doing in their Sybase > contract. > >>> In > >>> > some sense, it's a generational thing, and one should be aware of > both > >>> > useages, but the history is in the link above. > >>> > > >>> > If some snob corrects me on either usage and I'm feeling nasty, > I'll > >>> > often smile and say, "you know, I've been trying to find an RDBMS > >>> expert. > >>> > Could you briefly explain to me what a relation really is and how > tuples > >>> are > >>> > involved?" Amazing how few self-defined experts really understand > >>> > relational database concepts. > >>> > > >>> > More than you probably wanted to know, > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Joe Sam > >>> > > >>> > Joe Sam Shirah - www.conceptgo.com > >>> > conceptGO - Consulting/Development/Outsourcing > >>> > Java Filter Forum: www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/ > >>> > Just the JDBC FAQs: www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC > >>> > Going International? www.jguru.com/faq/I18N > >>> > Que Java400? www.jguru.com/faq/Java400 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Spicer > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:06 PM > >>> > To: list > >>> > Subject: How do you say "SQL?" > >>> > > >>> > Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I was wondering how many "seequell" > >>> and > >>> > "es cue ell" people there were on the list. Personally, I say "es cue > >>> ell". > >>> > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 > >>> > RSS Feed > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml > >>> > Unsubscribe [email protected] > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 > >>> RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml > >>> Unsubscribe [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >> > > >
