When did the JaxLUG turn into the middle school lunch table for nerds? On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Chad Bailey <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, I am truly sorry if I offended anyone in any way shape or form. > When posting what I posted, I had absolutely no knowledge of how > anyone here pronounced anything (believe me, my memory isn't that > good). What I said was merely a confession of my own personal > idiosyncrasies that make me unique. This was in no way meant to say > that I truly thought people were dumb or anything of that nature, just > that it comes off that way to me. > > This has nothing to do with any individual and honestly, is something > that I need to fix because the way someone pronounces something has no > bearing on their intelligence or abilities. In other words, the > problem is with me, not you and I realize that. I was merely > confessing to this. I suppose I didn't do the best job at conveying > that point with my original post. > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jess Hires <[email protected]> wrote: >> This is from the Linux page on Wikipedia, an ogg file of Linus Torvalds >> saying how he pronounces Linux. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Linus-pronounces-linux.ogg >> >> Now that that's clear, I'll continue to say that Linux is not pronounced >> just one way, it is pronounced many ways. The greatest thing about Linux, in >> my opinion, is that you can change anything you want, and I think that >> should include everything from source code to the way you want to pronounce >> it. >> >> Anyway, you're probably going to keep pronouncing it however you first >> learned it, regardless of what anybody else says. That's perfectly fine in >> my book. :) >> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Gene Cronk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'm exiting this thread.....I've explained my position, yet it's painfully >>> obvious that I am considered stupid by some for my pronunciation of certain >>> words... >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Chad Bailey <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> >>> > I'm pulling from ooold knowledge here, but if I'm not mistaken Linux >>> > adapted its name from "Minix" -- mini-unix. This may explain the >>> > method for pronouncing. >>> > >>> > Linus + Minix = Linux >>> > >>> > I don't know, but I've even heard of recordings of linus saying how to >>> > pronounce linux so I'm sure of it (after all, he did make it). >>> > >>> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Martin, Patrick >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > I'm going to start correcting people immediately and often. Regardless >>> > of the fact that the guys I'll be correcting run thousands of instances >>> > globally. :-) >>> > > >>> > > Thanks Gene! >>> > > >>> > > - Pat >>> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: Gene Cronk [mailto:[email protected]] >>> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:28 PM >>> > > To: Chad Bailey >>> > > Cc: Joe Sam Shirah; list >>> > > Subject: Re: How do you say "SQL?" >>> > > >>> > > For giggles, I looked up how Linus Torvalds' first name is >>> > > pronounced....Considering the OS is named after him, we're both wrong. >>> I >>> > > pronounce it lie-nux (hard I), you pronounce it lin-ux (soft I)....but >>> > > according to Wikipedia it should be pronounced lee-nux (hard E). Check >>> > it >>> > > out for yourself... >>> > > >>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds >>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Swedish_and_Norwegian >>> > > >>> > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Gene Cronk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> I pronounce it Line-ux for one reason....The U in UNIX is a hard >>> vowel, >>> > so >>> > >> I treat the first vowel as hard as well in Linux. As far as SQL, I >>> > >> pronounce it sequel currently, but used to pronounce it squeal. To >>> each >>> > >> their own. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Chad Bailey <[email protected] >>> > >wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> Similarly, I typically reflect what people use when they speak to me. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> If it's me doing the talking though, I pronounce the letters. I am >>> > >>> opposed to speaking acronyms as if they are words regardless of the >>> > >>> circumstances "lul" (unless it's an instance where the acronym is >>> > >>> intentionally made into a word, like "WINE"). >>> > >>> >>> > >>> While on the subject, I have a confession. People who pronounce linux >>> > >>> as "line-ux" irritate me. It's lin, like fin... linux. I almost find >>> > >>> it disrespectful, and do consider those who pronounce it in such a >>> way >>> > >>> less educated *shrugs*. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> The same thing applies to "nuke-ya-ler". When someone pronounces it >>> > >>> this way, I instantly wonder "does this person know what a nucleus is >>> > >>> or did they sleep through that in school". >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Just being transparent here, no intentions to upset anyone here who >>> > >>> pronounces it wrong. You'll never get me to agree that it can be >>> > >>> pronounced "both ways" though. In SQL's case, things are very >>> > >>> different. It isn't in any way related to an individual's name. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Joe Sam Shirah < >>> [email protected] >>> > > >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > For peer/client usage, I long ago decided "when in Rome..." That >>> > is, >>> > >>> > "sequel" or "Ess Que Ell" depending on usage at the particular >>> site. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Technically, "Ess Que Ell" is correct. SEQL, Structured English >>> > Query >>> > >>> > language - pronounced "sequel" - was IBM's first go at an RDBMS >>> > >>> language. >>> > >>> > Later it was changed to SQL, pronounced "Ess Que Ell". Here's one >>> > >>> link, >>> > >>> > I'm sure there are more definitive ones out there: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.sad4ever.org/dbms/sql_en.php >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The first time I heard "sequel" was in relation to MS SQL Server; >>> > they >>> > >>> > apparently thought it sounded cool after doing in their Sybase >>> > contract. >>> > >>> In >>> > >>> > some sense, it's a generational thing, and one should be aware of >>> > both >>> > >>> > useages, but the history is in the link above. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If some snob corrects me on either usage and I'm feeling nasty, >>> > I'll >>> > >>> > often smile and say, "you know, I've been trying to find an RDBMS >>> > >>> expert. >>> > >>> > Could you briefly explain to me what a relation really is and how >>> > tuples >>> > >>> are >>> > >>> > involved?" Amazing how few self-defined experts really understand >>> > >>> > relational database concepts. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > More than you probably wanted to know, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Joe Sam >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Joe Sam Shirah - www.conceptgo.com >>> > >>> > conceptGO - Consulting/Development/Outsourcing >>> > >>> > Java Filter Forum: www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/ >>> > >>> > Just the JDBC FAQs: www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC >>> > >>> > Going International? www.jguru.com/faq/I18N >>> > >>> > Que Java400? www.jguru.com/faq/Java400 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Spicer >>> > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:06 PM >>> > >>> > To: list >>> > >>> > Subject: How do you say "SQL?" >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I was wondering how many >>> "seequell" >>> > >>> and >>> > >>> > "es cue ell" people there were on the list. 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