Hey man, quit breathing your peanut butter breath on me. On Saturday, September 24, 2011 08:27:50 AM super PJ wrote: > When did the JaxLUG turn into the middle school lunch table for > nerds? > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Chad Bailey <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wow, I am truly sorry if I offended anyone in any way shape or > > form. When posting what I posted, I had absolutely no knowledge > > of how anyone here pronounced anything (believe me, my memory > > isn't that good). What I said was merely a confession of my own > > personal idiosyncrasies that make me unique. This was in no way > > meant to say that I truly thought people were dumb or anything > > of that nature, just that it comes off that way to me. > > > > This has nothing to do with any individual and honestly, is > > something that I need to fix because the way someone pronounces > > something has no bearing on their intelligence or abilities. In > > other words, the problem is with me, not you and I realize that. > > I was merely confessing to this. I suppose I didn't do the best > > job at conveying that point with my original post. > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jess Hires <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is from the Linux page on Wikipedia, an ogg file of Linus > >> Torvalds saying how he pronounces Linux. > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Linus-pronounces-linux.ogg > >> > >> Now that that's clear, I'll continue to say that Linux is not > >> pronounced just one way, it is pronounced many ways. The > >> greatest thing about Linux, in my opinion, is that you can > >> change anything you want, and I think that should include > >> everything from source code to the way you want to pronounce > >> it. > >> > >> Anyway, you're probably going to keep pronouncing it however you > >> first learned it, regardless of what anybody else says. That's > >> perfectly fine in my book. :) > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Gene Cronk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> I'm exiting this thread.....I've explained my position, yet > >>> it's painfully obvious that I am considered stupid by some for > >>> my pronunciation of certain words... > >>> > >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Chad Bailey > >>> <[email protected] > >>> > >>> >wrote: > >>> > I'm pulling from ooold knowledge here, but if I'm not > >>> > mistaken Linux adapted its name from "Minix" -- mini-unix. > >>> > This may explain the method for pronouncing. > >>> > > >>> > Linus + Minix = Linux > >>> > > >>> > I don't know, but I've even heard of recordings of linus > >>> > saying how to pronounce linux so I'm sure of it (after all, > >>> > he did make it). > >>> > > >>> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Martin, Patrick > >>> > > >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > I'm going to start correcting people immediately and often. > >>> > > Regardless > >>> > > >>> > of the fact that the guys I'll be correcting run thousands of > >>> > instances globally. :-) > >>> > > >>> > > Thanks Gene! > >>> > > > >>> > > - Pat > >>> > > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > From: Gene Cronk [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:28 PM > >>> > > To: Chad Bailey > >>> > > Cc: Joe Sam Shirah; list > >>> > > Subject: Re: How do you say "SQL?" > >>> > > > >>> > > For giggles, I looked up how Linus Torvalds' first name is > >>> > > pronounced....Considering the OS is named after him, we're > >>> > > both wrong. > >>> > >>> I > >>> > >>> > > pronounce it lie-nux (hard I), you pronounce it lin-ux > >>> > > (soft I)....but according to Wikipedia it should be > >>> > > pronounced lee-nux (hard E). Check > >>> > > >>> > it > >>> > > >>> > > out for yourself... > >>> > > > >>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds > >>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Swedish_and_ > >>> > > Norwegian > >>> > > > >>> > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Gene Cronk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >> I pronounce it Line-ux for one reason....The U in UNIX is > >>> > >> a hard > >>> > >>> vowel, > >>> > >>> > so > >>> > > >>> > >> I treat the first vowel as hard as well in Linux. As far > >>> > >> as SQL, I pronounce it sequel currently, but used to > >>> > >> pronounce it squeal. To > >>> > >>> each > >>> > >>> > >> their own. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Chad Bailey > >>> > >> <[email protected] > >>> > > > >>> > >wrote: > >>> > >>> Similarly, I typically reflect what people use when they > >>> > >>> speak to me. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If it's me doing the talking though, I pronounce the > >>> > >>> letters. I am opposed to speaking acronyms as if they > >>> > >>> are words regardless of the circumstances "lul" (unless > >>> > >>> it's an instance where the acronym is intentionally made > >>> > >>> into a word, like "WINE"). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> While on the subject, I have a confession. People who > >>> > >>> pronounce linux as "line-ux" irritate me. It's lin, like > >>> > >>> fin... linux. I almost find it disrespectful, and do > >>> > >>> consider those who pronounce it in such a > >>> > >>> way > >>> > >>> > >>> less educated *shrugs*. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The same thing applies to "nuke-ya-ler". When someone > >>> > >>> pronounces it this way, I instantly wonder "does this > >>> > >>> person know what a nucleus is or did they sleep through > >>> > >>> that in school". > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Just being transparent here, no intentions to upset > >>> > >>> anyone here who pronounces it wrong. You'll never get me > >>> > >>> to agree that it can be pronounced "both ways" though. > >>> > >>> In SQL's case, things are very different. It isn't in > >>> > >>> any way related to an individual's name. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Joe Sam Shirah < > >>> > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > For peer/client usage, I long ago decided "when in > >>> > >>> > Rome..." That > >>> > > >>> > is, > >>> > > >>> > >>> > "sequel" or "Ess Que Ell" depending on usage at the > >>> > >>> > particular > >>> > >>> site. > >>> > >>> > >>> > Technically, "Ess Que Ell" is correct. SEQL, > >>> > >>> > Structured English > >>> > > >>> > Query > >>> > > >>> > >>> > language - pronounced "sequel" - was IBM's first go at > >>> > >>> > an RDBMS > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> language. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Later it was changed to SQL, pronounced "Ess Que Ell". > >>> > >>> > Here's one > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> link, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I'm sure there are more definitive ones out there: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > http://www.sad4ever.org/dbms/sql_en.php > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > The first time I heard "sequel" was in relation to MS > >>> > >>> > SQL Server; > >>> > > >>> > they > >>> > > >>> > >>> > apparently thought it sounded cool after doing in their > >>> > >>> > Sybase > >>> > > >>> > contract. > >>> > > >>> > >>> In > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > some sense, it's a generational thing, and one should > >>> > >>> > be aware of > >>> > > >>> > both > >>> > > >>> > >>> > useages, but the history is in the link above. > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > If some snob corrects me on either usage and I'm > >>> > >>> > feeling nasty, > >>> > > >>> > I'll > >>> > > >>> > >>> > often smile and say, "you know, I've been trying to > >>> > >>> > find an RDBMS > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> expert. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Could you briefly explain to me what a relation really > >>> > >>> > is and how > >>> > > >>> > tuples > >>> > > >>> > >>> are > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > involved?" Amazing how few self-defined experts really > >>> > >>> > understand relational database concepts. > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > More than you probably wanted to know, > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Joe Sam > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Joe Sam Shirah - www.conceptgo.com > >>> > >>> > conceptGO - > >>> > >>> > Consulting/Development/Outsourcing Java Filter Forum: > >>> > >>> > www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/ Just the JDBC > >>> > >>> > FAQs: www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC > >>> > >>> > Going International? www.jguru.com/faq/I18N > >>> > >>> > Que Java400? www.jguru.com/faq/Java400 > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Spicer > >>> > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:06 PM > >>> > >>> > To: list > >>> > >>> > Subject: How do you say "SQL?" > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I was wondering how > >>> > >>> > many > >>> > >>> "seequell" > >>> > >>> > >>> and > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "es cue ell" people there were on the list. 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