Was that rhetorical? On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:27 AM, super PJ <[email protected]> wrote: > When did the JaxLUG turn into the middle school lunch table for nerds? > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Chad Bailey <[email protected]> wrote: >> Wow, I am truly sorry if I offended anyone in any way shape or form. >> When posting what I posted, I had absolutely no knowledge of how >> anyone here pronounced anything (believe me, my memory isn't that >> good). What I said was merely a confession of my own personal >> idiosyncrasies that make me unique. This was in no way meant to say >> that I truly thought people were dumb or anything of that nature, just >> that it comes off that way to me. >> >> This has nothing to do with any individual and honestly, is something >> that I need to fix because the way someone pronounces something has no >> bearing on their intelligence or abilities. In other words, the >> problem is with me, not you and I realize that. I was merely >> confessing to this. I suppose I didn't do the best job at conveying >> that point with my original post. >> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jess Hires <[email protected]> wrote: >>> This is from the Linux page on Wikipedia, an ogg file of Linus Torvalds >>> saying how he pronounces Linux. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Linus-pronounces-linux.ogg >>> >>> Now that that's clear, I'll continue to say that Linux is not pronounced >>> just one way, it is pronounced many ways. The greatest thing about Linux, in >>> my opinion, is that you can change anything you want, and I think that >>> should include everything from source code to the way you want to pronounce >>> it. >>> >>> Anyway, you're probably going to keep pronouncing it however you first >>> learned it, regardless of what anybody else says. That's perfectly fine in >>> my book. :) >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Gene Cronk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm exiting this thread.....I've explained my position, yet it's painfully >>>> obvious that I am considered stupid by some for my pronunciation of certain >>>> words... >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Chad Bailey <[email protected] >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>> > I'm pulling from ooold knowledge here, but if I'm not mistaken Linux >>>> > adapted its name from "Minix" -- mini-unix. This may explain the >>>> > method for pronouncing. >>>> > >>>> > Linus + Minix = Linux >>>> > >>>> > I don't know, but I've even heard of recordings of linus saying how to >>>> > pronounce linux so I'm sure of it (after all, he did make it). >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Martin, Patrick >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > I'm going to start correcting people immediately and often. Regardless >>>> > of the fact that the guys I'll be correcting run thousands of instances >>>> > globally. :-) >>>> > > >>>> > > Thanks Gene! >>>> > > >>>> > > - Pat >>>> > > >>>> > > -----Original Message----- >>>> > > From: Gene Cronk [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:28 PM >>>> > > To: Chad Bailey >>>> > > Cc: Joe Sam Shirah; list >>>> > > Subject: Re: How do you say "SQL?" >>>> > > >>>> > > For giggles, I looked up how Linus Torvalds' first name is >>>> > > pronounced....Considering the OS is named after him, we're both wrong. >>>> I >>>> > > pronounce it lie-nux (hard I), you pronounce it lin-ux (soft I)....but >>>> > > according to Wikipedia it should be pronounced lee-nux (hard E). Check >>>> > it >>>> > > out for yourself... >>>> > > >>>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds >>>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Swedish_and_Norwegian >>>> > > >>>> > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Gene Cronk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >> I pronounce it Line-ux for one reason....The U in UNIX is a hard >>>> vowel, >>>> > so >>>> > >> I treat the first vowel as hard as well in Linux. As far as SQL, I >>>> > >> pronounce it sequel currently, but used to pronounce it squeal. To >>>> each >>>> > >> their own. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Chad Bailey <[email protected] >>>> > >wrote: >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> Similarly, I typically reflect what people use when they speak to me. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> If it's me doing the talking though, I pronounce the letters. I am >>>> > >>> opposed to speaking acronyms as if they are words regardless of the >>>> > >>> circumstances "lul" (unless it's an instance where the acronym is >>>> > >>> intentionally made into a word, like "WINE"). >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> While on the subject, I have a confession. People who pronounce linux >>>> > >>> as "line-ux" irritate me. It's lin, like fin... linux. I almost find >>>> > >>> it disrespectful, and do consider those who pronounce it in such a >>>> way >>>> > >>> less educated *shrugs*. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> The same thing applies to "nuke-ya-ler". When someone pronounces it >>>> > >>> this way, I instantly wonder "does this person know what a nucleus is >>>> > >>> or did they sleep through that in school". >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Just being transparent here, no intentions to upset anyone here who >>>> > >>> pronounces it wrong. You'll never get me to agree that it can be >>>> > >>> pronounced "both ways" though. In SQL's case, things are very >>>> > >>> different. It isn't in any way related to an individual's name. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Joe Sam Shirah < >>>> [email protected] >>>> > > >>>> > >>> wrote: >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > For peer/client usage, I long ago decided "when in Rome..." That >>>> > is, >>>> > >>> > "sequel" or "Ess Que Ell" depending on usage at the particular >>>> site. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > Technically, "Ess Que Ell" is correct. SEQL, Structured English >>>> > Query >>>> > >>> > language - pronounced "sequel" - was IBM's first go at an RDBMS >>>> > >>> language. >>>> > >>> > Later it was changed to SQL, pronounced "Ess Que Ell". Here's one >>>> > >>> link, >>>> > >>> > I'm sure there are more definitive ones out there: >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > http://www.sad4ever.org/dbms/sql_en.php >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > The first time I heard "sequel" was in relation to MS SQL Server; >>>> > they >>>> > >>> > apparently thought it sounded cool after doing in their Sybase >>>> > contract. >>>> > >>> In >>>> > >>> > some sense, it's a generational thing, and one should be aware of >>>> > both >>>> > >>> > useages, but the history is in the link above. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > If some snob corrects me on either usage and I'm feeling nasty, >>>> > I'll >>>> > >>> > often smile and say, "you know, I've been trying to find an RDBMS >>>> > >>> expert. >>>> > >>> > Could you briefly explain to me what a relation really is and how >>>> > tuples >>>> > >>> are >>>> > >>> > involved?" Amazing how few self-defined experts really understand >>>> > >>> > relational database concepts. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > More than you probably wanted to know, >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > Joe Sam >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > Joe Sam Shirah - www.conceptgo.com >>>> > >>> > conceptGO - Consulting/Development/Outsourcing >>>> > >>> > Java Filter Forum: www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/ >>>> > >>> > Just the JDBC FAQs: www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC >>>> > >>> > Going International? www.jguru.com/faq/I18N >>>> > >>> > Que Java400? www.jguru.com/faq/Java400 >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Spicer >>>> > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:06 PM >>>> > >>> > To: list >>>> > >>> > Subject: How do you say "SQL?" >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I was wondering how many >>>> "seequell" >>>> > >>> and >>>> > >>> > "es cue ell" people there were on the list. 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