Yes, you have been informed correctly. There are more than 2. According the
World Atlas (http://www.worldatlas.com/nations.htm#.UlhOHVFDsnY) the number
is someone between 189 and 196.

But you did not answer the question asked: Name the country that you would
move the project to and why you believe that country would do a better job?

Then because the USA can't be trusted, who is going to replace the
Americans on the project? The name and logo are owned by an American
company. I doubt they want to give them up to a foreign company owned by
non-Americans just to make it harder for the American government to
pressure the project. If the rest of world wants to fork the project
because of concerns about the US government, fine, but I don't think you
will get buy in from ESF [the American company that owns the rights to the
name pfSense].

Once again, name some names. Who do you consider more trustworthy? Follow
the link, which of the 188-195 countries on that list do you propose to
trust more and why? I'd suggest you pick once that is not already in bed
with the NSA (which includes most of major western governments, plus some
of the Middle East and Far East governments). But that is me, maybe you
prefer to decide to move first and then figure out where you are going
after you have left (rather than planning where you are going before you
leave).



Walter


On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Thinker Rix <thinke...@rocketmail.com>wrote:

> On 2013-10-11 21:20, Walter Parker wrote:
>
>> Who would you trust more that ESF? Why,specifically, would you trust
>> another group of people to be more trustworthy?
>>
>
> The point is not untrusting ESF or anybody else. The point is that ESF is
> based in the USA, a country where the current government can force you to
> do things against your community without having any chance to escape from
> it; they just force you to do so.
> So the point of the whole idea that we evaluate here is: How can we secure
> pfSense from this nasty government so that they can not just force ESF or
> anybody else to comply with them.
>
>
>  I admit to have a USA bias, but for the issue in question, I don't there
>> being a much better choice. The UK has less freedoms in this matter.
>>
>
> As far as I am informed there are some more countries on the globe than
> the USA and the UK...
>
>
>  But then this is turning into a case of "I'm worried about things, here
>> lets have you [The project] spend time and money to fix the problem?"
>>
>> Unless, of course, you are willing to contribute time and money to fixing
>> this issue. Otherwise this just an armchair general telling other people
>> how to run the project.
>>
>
> Seems like a killer argument to me, which is kind of couterproductive in
> such an early stage of an idea/proposition, as this is.
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