Compdoc:
Your spinrite comments just show how dangerous some knowledge is without
propper understanding. Spinrite does indeed force SSDs to "fix" themselves
because it reads extensively (causes heat) and forces "half" working areas
to be marked bad. Most SSDs has minor defects from day one. Just like most
spinning drives has bad sectors marked when it arrives from the factory.
You can force the same result by reading all parts of a SSD drive
extensively. Spinrite does not per definition fix a SSD drive, but it does
make the firmware (software) in the drive detect read errors that might not
be relocated during normal operation. I have forced SSDs to fix themselves
since i got my first SSD more then 10 years ago. Often with the help of
Spinrite.

-lsf

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016, 22:29 Todd Russell <truss...@sjasc.edu> wrote:

> Final update on this issue. When I took it down, I pulled the drive and
> started a Level 2 SpinRite on it while I took out and reseated the RAM then
> ran memtest. I found no errors in either test, so I also took out the Intel
> 4 port gigabit card and reseated that, then put everything back together.
> It has been running for a week straight now with no hiccups of any kind, so
> either the SpinRite forced the drive to correct some read errors or
> removing and reseating the RAM got around some dust or oxidation on the
> contacts. It wouldn't be the first time reseating the RAM cleared otherwise
> unexplainable issues with a machine for me, so I will assume that was the
> case. I wish I'd had time to run the memtest before and after reseating the
> RAM but... AIN'T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT!
>
> Thanks to all for the feedback last week.
>
>
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> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:33 PM, compdoc <comp...@hotrodpc.com> wrote:
>
> > >I'd suggest that before you slag programs, you not rely on old,
> outdated,
> > biased information.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Spinrite 6 is a twelve year program that seemed cool back in the day, but
> > I would never recommend it to anyone now.
> >
> >
> >
> > Repairing computers for a living, Im always on the lookout for useful
> > tools. I don’t find Spinrite useful.
> >
> >
> >
> > I once watched spinrite work on a failing HDD for a day and a half, and
> > did nothing more than place additional wear on the drive. Does that make
> me
> > biased?
> >
> >
> >
> > Speaking of outdated... In 2013 Steve Gibson said he would finally update
> > it, but nothing so far?
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's an interesting quote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Gibson said that he could "see absolutely no possible benefit to running
> > SpinRite on a solid-state drive" and later "SpinRite is all about
> mechanics
> > and magnetics, neither of which exist, by design, in an SSD"
> >
> >
> >
> > And for your information, SMART records events. Some of those events will
> > happen under load, since that’s the nature of mechanical drives.
> >
> >
> >
> > However, a bad sector is a bad sector and load or no, that does not
> > change. Once they start to fail you replace the HDD, not try to repair
> it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Modern drives automatically reallocate sectors, meaning bad sectors are
> > replaced with spares. Not even spinrite can recover lost data from these
> > spare sectors that have never been used before.
> >
> >
> >
> > As for me, these days I install only SSDs in desktop systems that run
> > 24/7, and also use them as boot drives for servers. Over the years I have
> > had only one SSD fail, and it did show pending sectors in SMART.
> >
> >
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