> Actually, I do know a little about them because they are just south of me on 
> the freeway in Salem Oregon, 

good to know, thanks.


> Perhaps the bad graphics are a good sign?  Something only a true engineer 
> would use without the aid of a marketing guru :-)damon

heh heh.
Well at a software shop they'd hire you if you showed up in shorts and sandals 
and an ugly shirt, but maybe not if you
came in cowboy boots and a big hat with a waxed mustache. Style matters even to 
engineers and college profs and people
like me who refuse to acknowledge the fashion world at all. I guess refusing to 
figure out the way a business process
works is a form of bad engineering to me. Which come to think of it makes me a 
hypocrite or at least inconsistent, since
fashion is obviously a business with design rules like any other.

 huh. ;>)

J.


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