The USCG Documentation Center used to produce on request
and payment, an Abstract to any documented boat. Even if its
currently out of documentation they may have it registered.
The cost was something like $25 as I recall and will show the
chain of title and recorded liens & releases on the vessel, and
I also believe they have the first MSO or documentation relating
to the Builders Certificate.
I am going from memory here. (I was born with a bathtub brain
but years ago I lost the plug!)
Using this there may be enough to find what you are looking
for. They usually will also provide copies of the documents
that are filed, again for a small cost.
Hope that will help solve your problems.
Ed
Ed Kelly (& Sue Kelly)
USSV Angel Louise - a Catalac catamaran - lying NYC 79th St Boat
Basin Moorings
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:58:20 -0400
From: "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
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The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who sailed
it from
ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
proof of
prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there. Anyonre
have
an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
etc? The
boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site. I
know
he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having the
paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was probably
lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
here.
Bob
PDQ 36
Peace
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:35:05 -0400
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Some agencies require a "certificate of origin" which starts with the
manufacturer and subsequent owners down the line and a bill of sale
from you. If the boat has been registered previously, all of this
info should be available, maybe not easily, but available.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Liveaboardnow <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who sailed
it from
ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
proof of
prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there. Anyonre
have
an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
etc? The
boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site. I
know
he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having the
paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was probably
lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
here.
Bob
PDQ 36
Peace
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:10:30 -0400
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The plot thickens----30 yr old owner built trimaran.
Bob
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Some agencies require a "certificate of origin" which starts with the
manufacturer and subsequent owners down the line and a bill of sale from
you. If the boat has been registered previously, all of this info
should be
available, maybe not easily, but available.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Liveaboardnow <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who sailed
it from
ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
proof of
prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there. Anyonre
have
an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
etc? The
boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site. I
know
he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having the
paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was probably
lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
here.
Bob
PDQ 36
Peace
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:04:13 -0400
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Bob:
I would think that your bill of sale, supplemented by an affidavit
from you
setting out the boat's history and the details of the sale, *should*
make
the Turkish folks happy. If not, there's probably not much more you
can do
the guy. Good luck!
Phil McGovern
s/v Sunshine
PDQ 36
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> The plot thickens----30 yr old owner built trimaran.
> Bob
>
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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:35 PM
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>
> Some agencies require a "certificate of origin" which starts with the
> manufacturer and subsequent owners down the line and a bill of sale
> from
> you. If the boat has been registered previously, all of this info
> should be
> available, maybe not easily, but available.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Liveaboardnow <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
> Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
>
> The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who
> sailed it from
> ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
> proof of
> prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there.
> Anyonre have
> an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
> etc? The
> boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site.
> I know
> he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
> before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having
> the
> paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was
> probably
> lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
> here.
>
> Bob
> PDQ 36
> Peace
>
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:41:11 -0400
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Bob -- I'm in the process myself of trying to get some prior
paperwork for my own boat which is documented by the USCG. I've
contacted the CG and have discovered that they have a lot of that
paperwork in their archives, and will make me copies for a small fee
($4 - may be more for lots of paper). I think sending this gentleman
to the CG site is the right way to go. There is an email address on
that site to which you can send questions (says to send them to the
webmaster, which would not have been my first guess, but it seemed to
work). To my astonishment, I received a helpful reply, and followup,
within about 24 hours.
Hal
At 6:58 PM -0400 7/2/08, Bob Johnson wrote:
> The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who
> sailed it from
> ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
> proof of
> prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there.
> Anyonre have
> an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
> etc? The
> boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site.
> I know
> he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
> before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having
> the
> paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was
> probably
> lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
> here.
>
> Bob
> PDQ 36
> Peace
>
>
--
Hal Craft (AA2JQ)
Sailing Vessel "Talisman"
Currently Moored Robinhood, ME
Berkshire, New York
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