You might also provide an affidavit regarding the specifics of your sale of
the vessel, and stating "to the best of your knowledge" the boat's history.
You would include copies of any supporting documents.
Of course, the real problem is going to be on the other end - who knows what
documents will or won't be acceptable in Turkey, or how much evidence is
enough?!
Decent of you to try to help him out so long after the fact, when many would
just say he's on his own now.
On 7/3/08, Ed Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The USCG Documentation Center used to produce on request
> and payment, an Abstract to any documented boat. Even if its
> currently out of documentation they may have it registered.
> The cost was something like $25 as I recall and will show the
> chain of title and recorded liens & releases on the vessel, and
> I also believe they have the first MSO or documentation relating
> to the Builders Certificate.
>
> I am going from memory here. (I was born with a bathtub brain
> but years ago I lost the plug!)
>
> Using this there may be enough to find what you are looking
> for. They usually will also provide copies of the documents
> that are filed, again for a small cost.
>
> Hope that will help solve your problems.
>
> Ed
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:58:20 -0400
> From: "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
> To: "Liveaboardnow" <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who sailed
> it from
> ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
> proof of
> prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there. Anyonre
> have
> an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
> etc? The
> boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site. I
> know
> he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
> before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having the
> paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was probably
> lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
> here.
>
> Bob
> PDQ 36
> Peace
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:35:05 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Some agencies require a "certificate of origin" which starts with the
> manufacturer and subsequent owners down the line and a bill of sale
> from you. If the boat has been registered previously, all of this
> info should be available, maybe not easily, but available.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Liveaboardnow <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
> Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
>
>
>
> The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who sailed
> it from
> ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
> proof of
> prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there. Anyonre
> have
> an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
> etc? The
> boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site. I
> know
> he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
> before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having the
> paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was probably
> lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
> here.
>
> Bob
> PDQ 36
> Peace
>
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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:10:30 -0400
> From: "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
> To: <[email protected]>
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> The plot thickens----30 yr old owner built trimaran.
> Bob
>
> _____
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
>
>
> Some agencies require a "certificate of origin" which starts with the
> manufacturer and subsequent owners down the line and a bill of sale from
> you. If the boat has been registered previously, all of this info
> should be
> available, maybe not easily, but available.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Liveaboardnow <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
> Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
>
>
> The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who sailed
> it from
>
> ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
> proof of
>
> prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there. Anyonre
> have
>
> an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
> etc? The
>
> boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site. I
> know
>
> he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
>
> before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having the
>
> paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was probably
>
> lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
> here.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> PDQ 36
>
> Peace
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:04:13 -0400
> From: "Philip R. McGovern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
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> Bob:
>
> I would think that your bill of sale, supplemented by an affidavit
> from you
> setting out the boat's history and the details of the sale, *should*
> make
> the Turkish folks happy. If not, there's probably not much more you
> can do
> the guy. Good luck!
>
> Phil McGovern
> s/v Sunshine
> PDQ 36
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > The plot thickens----30 yr old owner built trimaran.
> > Bob
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:35 PM
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Subject:* Re: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
> >
> > Some agencies require a "certificate of origin" which starts with the
> > manufacturer and subsequent owners down the line and a bill of sale
> > from
> > you. If the boat has been registered previously, all of this info
> > should be
> > available, maybe not easily, but available.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Liveaboardnow <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Liveaboard] Turkey problems
> >
> > The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who
> > sailed it from
> > ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
> > proof of
> > prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there.
> > Anyonre have
> > an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
> > etc? The
> > boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site.
> > I know
> > he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
> > before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having
> > the
> > paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was
> > probably
> > lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
> > here.
> >
> > Bob
> > PDQ 36
> > Peace
> >
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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:41:11 -0400
> From: Hal Craft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Bob -- I'm in the process myself of trying to get some prior
> paperwork for my own boat which is documented by the USCG. I've
> contacted the CG and have discovered that they have a lot of that
> paperwork in their archives, and will make me copies for a small fee
> ($4 - may be more for lots of paper). I think sending this gentleman
> to the CG site is the right way to go. There is an email address on
> that site to which you can send questions (says to send them to the
> webmaster, which would not have been my first guess, but it seemed to
> work). To my astonishment, I received a helpful reply, and followup,
> within about 24 hours.
>
> Hal
>
> At 6:58 PM -0400 7/2/08, Bob Johnson wrote:
> > The fellow who bought my boat 2 years ago was an Austrian who
> > sailed it from
> > ME to Turkey and now has problems with the Turkish authorities re
> > proof of
> > prior registration. The broker is long gone so no help there.
> > Anyonre have
> > an idea as to how he can get something that proves prior ownership
> > etc? The
> > boat was documented so I sent him to the vessel documentation site.
> > I know
> > he sailed it in the US for a month then laid it up here for the winter
> > before he set sail. I really don't think he had a clue about having
> > the
> > paperwork in order as this was the first boat he owned and was
> > probably
> > lucky he wasn't boarded as an alien without a cruising permit while
> > here.
> >
> > Bob
> > PDQ 36
> > Peace
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Hal Craft (AA2JQ)
> Sailing Vessel "Talisman"
> Currently Moored Robinhood, ME
> Berkshire, New York
>
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