Norm, you and I have sat and had a beer together and for you to even remotely associate me with a bureaucrat makes me wonder where you were that day. If I was a bureaucrat I surely would not have been sticking my head in other peoples s**t for 30 yrs to earn a living. My point was to educate not defend. I have in the past made exactly the point that municipals cause more damage to an area even in compliance than boaters do with a straight pipe. It's simple math. If people that don't work in the business don't have the basic parameters to make intelligent, informed decisions how can we expect to have a meaningfull conversation.
Bob PDQ 36 Peace -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm of Bandersnatch Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] LectraSan limits I don't know where you are coming from but your email is spoken like a bureaucrat. "Given limits" does not mean "this is what is actually happening". We the people have had vast experience with Government promises. The truth is that government "standards" are rarely met. Ask any miner or Native American. I do not trust those in the business to tell the truth. They value their jobs and it is easy to replace people who are not "team players". One year as we were visiting Baltimore the papers were describing a multi-million gallon "leak" of raw sewerage in the Chesapeake. The "officials" said that "nature would take care of it". This happens in various places from time to time and makes me wonder just how many of these "leaks" go unreported. High grade sewage treatment plants cost big bucks and just are not glitzy enough for people or their public officials to want to spend money on them. So much easier to point to the boats anchored out and say those boat bums are pooping in the bay. It's called a Smoke Screen in the self-improvement books. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W > [Original Message] > From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 10/15/2008 5:26:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] LectraSan limits > > Municipal plants are given limits on parameters. Most ocean discharges have > 30 mg/l BOD amd 30 mg/l Suspended Solids. Others dischareing into more > sensative waters (think Chesapeake Bay)have more stringent > requirements including nutrient removal. They could be BOD 10, SS 10 > with a total nitrogen of <8 mg/l. Fecal coliform could be anywhere from 0 to 15/100 ml. > Bob > PDQ 36 > Peace > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosalie B. > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] LectraSan limits > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:28:14 -0400, you wrote: > > >These units kill pathogens but BOD( oxygen consuming organic > >material)and Suspended Solids( settle out on the coral reefs)are not > >reduced in any meaningfull way. > > > >Bob > >PDQ 36 > >Peace > > > Ask yourself - what happens to what you pump out? It goes into the > municipal system and if you are lucky they treat it for pathogens. > Any reduction of BOD?? > > The rules against Lextrasans are just not scientifically supportable. > All the buzz words in the world won't make it true. > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
