I dont know how you guys feel at this point feel about this, but do you
think we should put this on hold for now due to LSP2.0 being under
development still. This feature I think is one that will be a long term
subproject here, granted all that has been mentioned so far is valid.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Raine M. Ekman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Citerar Vesa <[email protected]>:
> > If there has to be an option for downloading presets/samples/whatever
> > from LSP or elsewhere, fine... but it should be configurable, it should
> > not break existing functionality, and it needs to be implemented better.
> >
> > Particularly, the file browser shouldn't get broken so horribly as in
> > these pictures:
> >
> > http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~doto/lmms/lmms-goes-online-2.png
>
> Nothing too horrible about that if we stick to the parts relevant to
> network resources.
>
>
> > - What if the online address changes,
>
> That kind of change rarely comes as a sudden surprise, but it should
> of course be anticipated. No big deal.
>
> > what if the site gets hacked,
> > etc... it's not a security problem as long as we only download
> > presets/samples and no executable code of any kind, but it's still
> > something we need to think about.
>
> Oh yes, it is. Buffer overflows and so on...
>
>
> > - We have to ensure that web searches do not slow down the software...
> > there needs to be a proper separation of online/local because not
> > everyone has super fast internet connections - some people still live in
> > areas without broadband.
>
> > If we have to wait for LMMS to poll external
> > websites every time we browse our LOCAL samples/presets... then it makes
> > LMMS unusable for many people. That's a no-no.
>
> That's a "nobody has even suggested it", I hope. Google can pull it
> off with billions in infrastructure and infinite (smart) code monkeys,
> but LSP? Hardly.
>
>
> > - We have to ensure that LMMS works regardless of the status of the web
> > connection. If the online files aren't available, or the web connection
> > is down entirely, local functionality must NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES,
> > be impaired IN ANY WAY because of it. I'm writing in caps because this
> > is **VERY IMPORTANT**.
>
> > - There should not be a wait time at startup while LMMS checks for
> > online connections.
>
> I thought polling in the background, caching and stuff like that could
> solve most of these problems?
>
> > Online sources should only be polled when the user
> > explicitly asks for them.
>
> ... but obviously not if this is a hard requirement. Or would you
> settle for a checkbox like "refresh LSP resources in background" as
> explicit enough?
>
>
> > Proper separation of local and online spaces must be implemented before
> > this feature is brought anywhere near master, IMO. Not anything like in
> > the images Toby posted... but rather maybe an extra tab in the sidebar
> > that contains all of the online stuff so people can safely ignore it if
> > they don't need it, and still use the local functionality without
> > impairment.
>
> Your "proper separation" is really mostly about a minor UI detail,
> which probably is the easiest thing to change in this whole discussion.
>
> I'd like to see this network stuff separated into a helper program of
> some kind. Something like a cloud storage or version control client,
> possibly with LMMS only reading files from a local directory. How's
> that for separation?
>
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