I think "rush" is a bit of a stretch. I've been working on this for 4 years now and we have been doing beta releases for a year. I don't mean any offense, but I don't believe you being familiar with the whole code base is a requirement for a GA release. To be honest, I haven't spent much time looking at the async support Remko added.
The fact that you and I are willing to use it in production says a lot about whether it is GA quality. Ralph On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Jul 17, 2013, at 22:36, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> > wrote: > >> Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are >> pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. Can >> we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA release. > > I'd love to see a logo contest. > > I do not see why we should rush the release. There are areas of the code base > that I've never even explored in depth but that plan on looking at. I would > feel more confident to say that the whole pile is fully baked then. Right now > I think Ralph is the only person with deep knowledge everywhere. > > I know the quality is good and because of that I am using it in a new > project, beta label and all. > > >> >> Nick >> >> On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> >>> Sorry to say, not so far. >>> >>> VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't >>> heard back. >>> >>> Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe >>> asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. >>> Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> Christian, >>> >>> Any update from your brand discussions? >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>> wrote: >>> AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably >>> use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people >>> upload their images to it. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> >>>> FWIW, I ran into this: >>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just >>>> > created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not >>>> > see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format >>>> > but >>>> > let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG >>>> > files? >>>> >>>> The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork >>>> but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a >>>> tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: >>>> inkscape.org >>>> I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based >>>> artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. >>>> >>>> Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while >>>> Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of >>>> course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) >>>> you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. >>>> >>>> If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know >>>> many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a >>>> few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. >>>> >>>> With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking >>>> difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the >>>> entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it >>>> is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work >>>> with SVG once its created. >>>> >>>> Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know >>>> what we will do with the logo one day. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> >>>> > Gary >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier >>>> > <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all >>>> >> sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. >>>> >> At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams >>>> >> <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: >>>> >> > I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a >>>> >> > higher-resolution >>>> >> > format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it >>>> >> > should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target >>>> >> > resolution >>>> >> > is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for >>>> >> > example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos >>>> >> > attached >>>> >> > to the JIRA. Perhaps: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > lastname-firstname-logo01.extension >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Where the numbers following the word "logo" represent which number it >>>> >> > is >>>> >> > that person has submitted. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Just my thoughts. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Nick >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I think the "preferred" format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then >>>> >> > also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a >>>> >> > proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to >>>> >> > use. We can note that adding a small "TM" is preferred but not >>>> >> > required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could >>>> >> > suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is >>>> >> > easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Gary >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Hello, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a >>>> >> > >>>> >> > logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I >>>> >> > >>>> >> > would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any >>>> >> > >>>> >> > mails or start the contest. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will >>>> >> > >>>> >> > revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its >>>> >> > >>>> >> > more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the >>>> >> > >>>> >> > idea of a new logo found support :-) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Cheers >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Christian >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Log4j 2 logo contest >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, >>>> >> > Log4j 2 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the >>>> >> > community to >>>> >> > >>>> >> > create this new logo. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Attach your entries to the Jira http://... >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Each person can submit more than one logo. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] >>>> >> > June >>>> >> > 30, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > 2013. 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