+1 on the logo contest.

We have not got a response from legal. I think we need to go on to our
best knowledge. I am going to dig the recent messages on this topic
now and send a compiled proposal with my next emssage.

Cheers

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 22:36, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net>
> wrote:
>
> Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are
> pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. Can
> we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA release.
>
>
> I'd love to see a logo contest.
>
> I do not see why we should rush the release. There are areas of the code
> base that I've never even explored in depth but that plan on looking at. I
> would feel more confident to say that the whole pile is fully baked then.
> Right now I think Ralph is the only person with deep knowledge everywhere.
>
> I know the quality is good and because of that I am using it in a new
> project, beta label and all.
>
>
>
>
> Nick
>
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
> Sorry to say, not so far.
>
> VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't
> heard back.
>
> Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe
> asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess.
> Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions.
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Christian,
>>
>> Any update from your brand discussions?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers
>>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to.  We could probably
>>>> use git though.  The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people
>>>> upload their images to it.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, I ran into this:
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>> <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just
>>>>> > created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do
>>>>> > not
>>>>> > see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred
>>>>> > format but
>>>>> > let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG
>>>>> > files?
>>>>>
>>>>> The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork
>>>>> but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a
>>>>> tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape:
>>>>> inkscape.org
>>>>> I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based
>>>>> artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while
>>>>> Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of
>>>>> course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe)
>>>>> you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know
>>>>> many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a
>>>>> few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking
>>>>> difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the
>>>>> entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it
>>>>> is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work
>>>>> with SVG once its created.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know
>>>>> what we will do with the logo one day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Gary
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>> > <grobme...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all
>>>>> >> sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on.
>>>>> >> At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it
>>>>> >> open
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams
>>>>> >> <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>>>> >> > I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a
>>>>> >> > higher-resolution
>>>>> >> > format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions
>>>>> >> > that it
>>>>> >> > should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target
>>>>> >> > resolution
>>>>> >> > is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like,
>>>>> >> > for
>>>>> >> > example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos
>>>>> >> > attached
>>>>> >> > to the JIRA. Perhaps:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > lastname-firstname-logo01.extension
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Where the numbers following the word "logo" represent which number
>>>>> >> > it is
>>>>> >> > that person has submitted.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Just my thoughts.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Nick
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I think the "preferred" format should be PNG. If you use Gimp,
>>>>> >> > then
>>>>> >> > also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a
>>>>> >> > proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us
>>>>> >> > to
>>>>> >> > use. We can note that adding a small "TM" is preferred but not
>>>>> >> > required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we
>>>>> >> > could
>>>>> >> > suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down
>>>>> >> > is
>>>>> >> > easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Gary
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>> >> > <grobme...@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Hello,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon.
>>>>> >> > I
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out
>>>>> >> > any
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > mails or start the contest.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I
>>>>> >> > will
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too.
>>>>> >> > Its
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad
>>>>> >> > the
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > idea of a new logo found support :-)
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Cheers
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Christian
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory
>>>>> >> > <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site]
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Log4j 2 logo contest
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this
>>>>> >> > occasion,
>>>>> >> > Log4j 2
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the
>>>>> >> > community to
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > create this new logo.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Attach your entries to the Jira http://...
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Each person can submit more than one logo.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a
>>>>> >> > hat] June
>>>>> >> > 30,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev
>>>>> >> > mailing
>>>>> >> > lists.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > The Log4j team.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > ---
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Thoughts?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Gary
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > --
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