My +1s below aside, let's not get off topic. Can someone get the JIRA created and the announcement posted to the site and lists so that we can get this party started? :-)
Nick On Jul 18, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > I think "rush" is a bit of a stretch. +1 > I've been working on this for 4 years now and we have been doing beta > releases for a year. +Integer.MAX_VALUE > I don't mean any offense, but I don't believe you being familiar with the > whole code base is a requirement for a GA release. +1 > To be honest, I haven't spent much time looking at the async support Remko > added. > > The fact that you and I are willing to use it in production says a lot about > whether it is GA quality. +10 > > Ralph > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 22:36, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are >>> pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. >>> Can we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA >>> release. >> >> I'd love to see a logo contest. >> >> I do not see why we should rush the release. There are areas of the code >> base that I've never even explored in depth but that plan on looking at. I >> would feel more confident to say that the whole pile is fully baked then. >> Right now I think Ralph is the only person with deep knowledge everywhere. >> >> I know the quality is good and because of that I am using it in a new >> project, beta label and all. >> >> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry to say, not so far. >>>> >>>> VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't >>>> heard back. >>>> >>>> Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe >>>> asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. >>>> Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> Christian, >>>> >>>> Any update from your brand discussions? >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably >>>> use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people >>>> upload their images to it. >>>> >>>> Ralph >>>> >>>> On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>> >>>>> FWIW, I ran into this: >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html >>>>> >>>>> Gary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier >>>>> <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just >>>>> > created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do >>>>> > not >>>>> > see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format >>>>> > but >>>>> > let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG >>>>> > files? >>>>> >>>>> The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork >>>>> but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a >>>>> tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: >>>>> inkscape.org >>>>> I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based >>>>> artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. >>>>> >>>>> Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while >>>>> Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of >>>>> course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) >>>>> you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. >>>>> >>>>> If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know >>>>> many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a >>>>> few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. >>>>> >>>>> With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking >>>>> difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the >>>>> entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it >>>>> is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work >>>>> with SVG once its created. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know >>>>> what we will do with the logo one day. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Christian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Gary >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier >>>>> > <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all >>>>> >> sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. >>>>> >> At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams >>>>> >> <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: >>>>> >> > I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a >>>>> >> > higher-resolution >>>>> >> > format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that >>>>> >> > it >>>>> >> > should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target >>>>> >> > resolution >>>>> >> > is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, >>>>> >> > for >>>>> >> > example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos >>>>> >> > attached >>>>> >> > to the JIRA. Perhaps: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > lastname-firstname-logo01.extension >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Where the numbers following the word "logo" represent which number >>>>> >> > it is >>>>> >> > that person has submitted. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Just my thoughts. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Nick >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > I think the "preferred" format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then >>>>> >> > also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a >>>>> >> > proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to >>>>> >> > use. We can note that adding a small "TM" is preferred but not >>>>> >> > required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could >>>>> >> > suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is >>>>> >> > easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Gary >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Hello, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > mails or start the contest. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I >>>>> >> > will >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad >>>>> >> > the >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > idea of a new logo found support :-) >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Cheers >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Christian >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory >>>>> >> > <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Log4j 2 logo contest >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, >>>>> >> > Log4j 2 >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the >>>>> >> > community to >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > create this new logo. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Attach your entries to the Jira http://... >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Each person can submit more than one logo. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] >>>>> >> > June >>>>> >> > 30, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing >>>>> >> > lists. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > The Log4j team. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > --- >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Thoughts? >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Gary >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Spring Batch in Action >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > https://www.timeandbill.de >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>> >> https://www.timeandbill.de >>>>> >> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>>> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>>>> > Spring Batch in Action >>>>> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>> > Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>>>> Spring Batch in Action >>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>>> Spring Batch in Action >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>>> Spring Batch in Action >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>> https://www.timeandbill.de >>> >
