Hi Ottavio.

Thanks for the comments. A few responses:

   - Anyone advanced enough to be in this mailing list is not the target
   audience for StartIT, indeed very far from it. StartIT is designed for
   those who are looking for a first career, or a new career. It is designed
   to help people to make an *informed* choice of whether a path in IT is
   suitable for them. They may take the program and come to the conclusion
   that IT is not for them, and even here we succeed in our task of helping
   people make a decision for the right reasons.

   - As Fabian said, this is neither a certification nor a certificate, I
   am not even sure that a badge is needed (since you don't really benefit
   anyone else but yourself by taking it). The program's design will produce
   different answers, different paths, for each individual who participates.
   We and the learner succeed when they attain the tools to form well-informed
   opinions on what is best for them. In a variation of YMMV, *everyone's*
   mileage will vary. Of course for those who *do* proceed into an IT career,
   LPI offers a very useful continuing path ... but this is not being designed
   as a marketing tool but rather a neutral and realistic introduction to an
   IT field that is much broader than the segment whose skills are tested for
   our certifications. One of StartIT's best applications (IMO) will be in
   public libraries and secondary schools where people go for vocational
   advice and resources.

   - We take the "P" in LPI very seriously. Only a few weeks ago I gave a
   webinar (the recording is here
   
<https://www.lpi.org/articles/p-in-lpi-what-it-means-be-open-source-professional>)
   on this exact subject. But before someone can become a professional in any
   field, they need to enter that field at the very start, which is exactly
   where StartIT is aiming. Every journey needs a first step.

It's quite correct that StartIT would probably do nothing for you or your
colleagues, you're already here with IT skills. But it could be very
valuable to a person who was recently made redundant by COVID, or a
teenager confused about what to do in their post-secondary-school life.

I hope this offers a better understanding of StartIT so you may understand
that it is indeed good for something, even if it's not useful to you.

Cheers,

- Evan




On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 04:37, Ottavio Caruso via lpi-examdev <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> https://wiki.lpi.org/pubwiki/index.php?title=StartIT_V1.0&diff=5542&oldid=5536#Introduction
>
> "What is StartIT?
>
> Linux Professional Institute StartIT provides candidates the
> opportunity to obtain a fundamental knowledge about the most important
> fields of information technology and enables them to make well-founded
> decisions regarding their vocational education and future career. The
> program contains comprehensive learning materials, a library of
> additional references and resources as well as a final test concluding
> in a digital badge issued upon passing the test."
>
> Looks to me this is a wishy-washy good-for-nothing IT certification
> that doesn't really help and it is questionable if it makes any money
> for the LPI. I thought the "P" in LPI stood for Professional. I am
> seeing a trend towards amateurish certifications that nobody really
> needs and don't help in getting a job. But maybe it's just me being
> negative and the LPI is getting it right all long.
>
> Regards.
>
>
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> Ottavio Caruso
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