Hi Henk,

"Adding a new concept, with very little benefit, hurts the protocol in the long 
run. The ability to abstract an area, and not also a zone, is strong enough to 
be worthwhile, imho."

Your conclusion here seems very subjective.
What's the criterion the evaluate the benefit? What I see the TTZ does have 
benefit.
I am also wandering how it hurts the protocol in the long run?
....

Tianran


-----Original Message-----
From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henk Smit
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:22 PM
To: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.c...@futurewei.com>
Cc: lsr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

Huaimo Chen wrote on 2020-07-14 06:09:

>  2). IS-IS TTZ abstracts a zone to a single node. A zone is any target 
> block or piece of an IS-IS area, which is to be abstracted. This seems 
> more flexible and convenient to users.

I don't agree that this convenience is really beneficial.
I actually think this convenience is a downside.


Link-state protocols are not easy to understand. And we already have the 
misfortune that IS-IS and OSPF use different names for things.
Adding the new concept of a "zone", while we already have the concept of an 
area makes things only more complex.

How often will this new flexibility be used in the real world ?
I still haven't seen an answer to Christian Hopp's simple question:
"Has RFC8099 been deployed by anyone ?"
Anyone who has an answer ?

My favorite rule of RFC1925 is rule 12:
    In protocol design, perfection has been reached not when there is
    nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.

Adding a new concept, with very little benefit, hurts the protocol in the long 
run. The ability to abstract an area, and not also a zone, is strong enough to 
be worthwhile, imho.

henk.

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