Thanks for clarification Robert, makes sense.

Cheers,
Jeff
On Nov 15, 2020, 12:03 PM -0800, Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>, wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> I was not bringing RIFT's negative routies example as something inherently 
> negative. I was just pointing it out to illustrate that today's data plane 
> lookup does not really support "if does not match" checks.
>
> So if you intend to use unreachable prefixes in data plane as result you need 
> to break summary into as atomic prefixes as your unreachable advertisement 
> mask.
>
> Hence my recommendation to use IGP to flood unreachable only for the purpose 
> of control plane (namely BGP paths invalidation).
>
> Cheers,
> R.
>
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.i...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > > As RIFT chair - I’d like to respond to Robert’ comment -  the example is 
> > > rather  unfortunate, in RIFT disaggregation is conditional and well 
> > > contained within its context, it doesn’t  affect overall scalability.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > > On Nov 15, 2020, at 08:44, Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Aijun,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would in fact only propose that the presented mechanism is narrowed 
> > > > > down to invalidate BGP (service) routes - in fact their next hops.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason being that the moment you make the solution generic, 
> > > > > moreover the moment you want it to be used in RIB and data plane I am 
> > > > > afraid you are running into similar (even if local) deaggregation 
> > > > > mechanism like recently described in RIFT. That would kill all the 
> > > > > scalability of advertising summary routes in the first place and I 
> > > > > bet would face lots of opposition.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thx,
> > > > > R.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would actually trim most use cases leaving just one - to 
> > > > > > > > signal remote service node (ex: PE) going down in the presence 
> > > > > > > > of summary route being advertised from remote area or pop.
> > > > >  [WAJ] Yes, this may be the most useful use case, but the PUA 
> > > > > mechanism can also apply to other scenarios. We want to make it one 
> > > > > general solution.
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