Hieromonk Peter wrote:
> Let me clarify about the increasing capacity.  146 GB should be more than 
> enough for our needs for the foreseeable future.  I priced a system with 
> this capacity for a Raid 1 using two 146 GB drives, and systems with 3 x 73 
> GB and 5 x 36 GB drives using Raid 5.  Both of the Raid 5 configurations 
> cost more than the Raid 1, I presume because the cost savings of the smaller 
> drives was not enough to offset the cost of the extra drive I would have to 
> have with Raid 5.

Okay, I see what you mean now.

> If down the line I wanted to increase our storage capacity, I was wondering 
> if I could add a third 146 GB drive and make it a Raid 5.  My big question 
> was whether the same Raid controller could do either Raid 1 or 5.

I only have experience with the 3Ware cards, but in that case you can do 
RAID 0, 1 on any of the controllers and RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, etc. on any 
controllers with 4 or more ports.

> I kind of assumed I would have to rebuild the entire system to do this, 
> which you verified with your email.
> 
> So that is what I meant.  I hope it makes sense?
> 
> Thank you very much for your reponse.
> 
> It's been a big learning experience for me, and I appreciate the help.
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Peter, hieromonk
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Hieromonk Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Raid 1 or Raid 5? New server advice.
> 
> 
>>
>> Hieromonk Peter wrote:
>>> Thank you all very much for your help, advice and information.  I 
>>> appreciate
>>> it very, very much.
>>>
>>> I've read more about Raid in the past few days than I ever wanted to, 
>>> []:-)
>>> and I think I am still leaning towards sticking with a Raid 1.  146 GB
>>> should be plenty of space for us for quite some time, so it doesn't make
>>> sense to go with a Raid 5.  A Raid 5 costs more, and would only really
>>> benefit us if we were ever needed to increase our storage capacity.
>> I am not sure what you mean there about a benefit only if you needed to
>> increase capacity...  Even if you have a RAID 5 Array on a 3Ware card,
>> you cannot just add drives to it.  You would have to remove and rebuild
>> an array (see below).  To add capacity to a system without moving the
>> data off of and back onto the drives, you would need something like the
>> Linus Volume Manager, which can use RAID as its underlying storage if
>> you would like...
>>
>>> ---- Which leads to another question:
>>>
>>> If I have a Raid controller set up to handle the drives as a Raid 1, can 
>>> I
>>> later use the same controller and have it handle the drives as a Raid 5? 
>>> It
>>> would be fine with me if I had to rebuild the system to do this.  Just
>>> curious of what my options are with that in the future.  It seems to me 
>>> that
>>> it should, because it is the same controller Dell sells for both
>>> configurations.
>> If you use a 3Ware card with >2 drive interfaces, you can make it a RAID
>> 1 or RAID 5.  You can change it later, but that will wipe out all your
>> data.  So, if you use the same controller, you will need to reliably
>> move all the data to another medium, remove the array, and rebuild it as
>> a RAID 5.
>>
>> -- 
>> -Michael George
>>  Ideal Solutions, LLC
>>
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