My Solution:

for firefox : ppa -> xcb
for wine: FreeNX + NoMachine client

Is good for me!


2009/9/25 Oliver Grawert <o...@ubuntu.com>:
> hi,
> Am Freitag, den 25.09.2009, 15:06 +0200 schrieb Stefan Below:
>
>> I dont't blame or call any developers 'silly'. what i tried to say is
>> that the comparison lacks a bit. Yes, the nx package uses _old_ libs ,
>> but they do the same like the new ones (what we need for ltsp/nx).
> if they would do exactly the same they wouldnt have been rewritten :)
>
>>  In my opinion we need a tiny, stable os, that is maintained,used  and
>> supported somewhere else and fitted with extra packages for ltsp.
> feel free to provide such a thing, teh past experience turned out that
> it is not doable with the amount of manpower ltsp has, which led to
> ltsp5 ... and even if you would do it that way today, would you actually
> use versions of the software thats outdated (a 2.4 kernel instead of 2.6
> that only supports a minimal set of the hardware out there but is a lot
> faster and smaller, x11r6 instead of xorg that doesnt support any kind
> of autodetection so you would have to write awful and hard to maintain
> scripts like distros had to do in the past)
>
>> i already did some experiments with openwrt and i think it could perform
>> well.....
> upstream ltsp code is open to everyone, feel free to commit patches :)
>>
>> Well, i know thats  all matter of time and manpower to get it work,and
>> thats the biggest problem :-)
> right, we have in max 3-5 active testers (huge thanks to them) every
> development release (compared to thousands of users). i can only speak
> for ubuntu here, for karmic we had 6 alpha releases now, how many of the
> people on this list even tested a single one and reported bugs ?
>
> its totally not about manpower of developers but about the 1-1.5h it
> takes one or two times during 6 months to do a test install and give
> some feedback to the devs *before* releases go out.
>
> ciao
>        oli
>
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