Eh Mark,

Are you involved with Lucene development?


At 11:39 AM 26/07/2004, you wrote:
Don, at the low level, the issue isn't necessarily caching results
from page-to-page (as viewed by some UI.) Such a cache would need to
be co-ordinated with index writes.

Rather, I plan to focus on the way Hits first reads 100 hits, then 200,
then 400 and so on -- but all Hits knows about is the MultiSearcher.
This means that in order to find the 101st hit, Hits effectively asks
ALL the searchers in the MultiSearcher to search again -- even though it
could be known that SOME of those searchers are incapable of returning
results.

-- Mark Florence

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Vaillancourt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:06 am
To: Lucene Users List; Lucene Users List
Subject: RE: Anyone use MultiSearcher class


Thanks for the info.

Maybe the best solution to this may be to perform multiple individual
searches, create a container class and store all the hits sorted by
relevance within that class and then cache/serialize this result for the
current search for page by page manipulation.


At 09:46 AM 15/07/2004, Mark Florence wrote: >Don, I think I finally understand your problem -- and mine -- with >MultiSearcher. I had tested an implementation of my system using >ParallelMultiSearcher to split a huge index over many computers. >I was very impressed by the results on my test data, but alarmed >after a trial with live data :) > >Consider MultiSearcher.search(Query Q). Suppose that Q aggregated >over ALL the Searchables in the MultiSearcher would return 1000 >documents. But, the Hits object created by search() will only cache >the first 100 documents. When Hits.doc(101) is called, Hits will >cache 200 documents -- then 400, 800, 1600 and so on. How does Hits >get these extra documents? By calling the MultiSearcher again. > >Now consider a MultiSearcher as described above with 2 Searchables. >With respect to Q, Searchable S has 1000 documents, Searchable T >has zero. So to fetch the 101st document, not only is S searched, >but T is too, even though the result of Q applied to T is still zero >and will always be zero. The same thing will happen when fetching >the 201st, 401st and 801st document. > >This accounts for my slow performance, and I think yours too. That >your observed degradation is a power of 2 is a clue. > >My performance is especially vulnerable because "slave" Searchables >in the MultiSearcher are Remote -- accessed via RMI. > >I guess I have to code smarter around MultiSearcher. One problem >you highlight is that Hits is final -- so it is not possible even to >modify the "100/200/400" cache size logic. > >Any ideas from anyone would be much appreciated. > >Mark Florence >CTO, AIRS >800-897-7714 x 1703 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Don Vaillancourt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:36 pm >To: Lucene Users List >Subject: Anyone use MultiSearcher class > > >Hello, > >Has anyone used the Multisearcher class? > >I have noticed that searching two indexes using this MultiSearcher class >takes 8 times longer than searching only one index. I could understand if >it took 3 to 4 times longer to search due to sorting the two search results >and stuff, but why 8 times longer. > >Is there some optimization that can be done to hasten the search? Or >should I just write my own MultiSearcher. The problem though is that there >is no way for me to create my own Hits object (no methods are available and >the class is final). > >Anyone have any clue? > >Thanks > > >Don Vaillancourt >Director of Software Development > >WEB IMPACT INC. >416-815-2000 ext. 245 >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >web: http://www.web-impact.com > > > > >This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) >and contains information that may be confidential and/or >copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please >notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete >this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email >by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly >prohibited. No representation is made that this email or >any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is >recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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