Tim, Repeat after me:
Copyright infringement is /not/ theft. One cannot meaningfully discuss or debate IP without understanding the fundamental difference between these two acts. In case you missed my previous post, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#Comparison_to_theft Regards, Kyle Spencer ----- Original message ----- > Badru is not cloning or archiving he is taking. Please can we lay off > the semantics here. The issue is just about the morality of taking > things without the owners permission. The rest of this thread is now > getting just silly. > > > > On 10/08/2010, Joseph Abdi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please note that: > > > > "In criminal law, theft is the illegal taking of another person's > > property without that person's freely-given consent." > > > > ***NOTE: Its "Taking"...and NOT cloning or archiving ...When I take > > it, you loose it... > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:31:21 +0300, brian muhumuza > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > How exactly does re-broadcasting information already in the public > > > domain become theft? > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Tim Schofield > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well Kyle you have a unique definition of theft that I have never > > > > come across before in my 50 years on this planet. > > > > > > > > If I hack into amazons servers and download the credit card > > > > details of all their customers, the law would say I have stolen > > > > that data. I dont have to remove them, I still have stolen them > > > > and I would be charged with the theft of that data. If you break > > > > into someones offices and take copies of their private information > > > > from their filing cabinets, that is theft. > > > > > > > > it is not archiving, cloning, or any other of the words that have > > > > been used here, it is theft. > > > > > > > > You are the only person on this list arguing that taking something > > > > that does not belong to you without the permission of the owner is > > > > not theft. The argument of the rest of this list is that it is > > > > acceptable practice as they are being robbed by other people as > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Should you require technical assistance, > > please do not hesitate to contact us directly at > > http://www.support311.com > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Abdi Joseph > > Jolis | Support | Dept. > > > > "100% Customer Service! - 100% of the Time!" > > > > USA > > +-------------------------------- > > 710 North Tucker Blvd. > > Suite 610A St. Louis, > > MO 63101 USA > > USA: +151.43.794409 > > Fax: +1-309-418-9893 > > --------------------------------+ > > > > UGANDA: > > +-------------------------------- > > Plot 22 Namanve, Akright III Estate > > P.O. BOX 22930, Kampala, > > Uganda, EA. > > Tel1: +256.792.JOSEPH > > Tel2: +256.752.JOSEPH > > Tel3: +256.712.JOSEPH > > Tel4: +256.312.280643 > > Tel5: +256.414.577227 > > Fax: +1.309-418-9893 > > --------------------------------+ > > > > LIVE SUPPORT: > > +-------------------------------- > > http://www.support311.com > > http://www.jolis.net > > --------------------------------+ > > _______________________________________________ > > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in > > any way. --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > WebERP Africa Ltd > +447710427049 > +256752963327 > +255784602561 > www.weberpafrica.com > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. --------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---------------------------------------
