Simon, your assertion seems highly implausible. Citation needed. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Mutama <[email protected]>wrote:
> Tim, > > Sadly the reality is that artists in the other EA countries are > envious of their counterparts in Uganda. Skewed as the law and the > situation may be. > > Simon > > On 10/08/2010, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well Mike, all the time sites like Badru's are used to stifle > > innovation in the creative arts, this country will remain in the back > > woods. My argument is simple, we should take the lead in encouraging > > creative arts, in encouraging innovation. Not simply to say that theft > > of copyright is common place so lets all do it. > > > > If I was a performing artist in Uganda I would move to Kenya, or > > Tanzania, or Rwanda, where my rights are respected. > > > > But I am never going to convince you guys of this. I think the fact is > > I am a creator of copyright material, whereas you are users of > > copyright material and this gives us different perspectives on the > > issue. > > > > On 10/08/2010, Mike Barnard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On 10/08/2010, Mike Barnard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Kenya has got very stringent IPR and Copyright laws, which came > about > >> due to > >> > > the growth of their industry, whether artistic or in the engineering > >> field. > >> > > -- > >> > > Mike > >> > > > >> > > >> > I believe you have this the wrong way around. Kenya has a strong > >> > artistic industry because they have the laws in place to protect the > >> > rights of the artists, not the other way around. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> I say this and stand by it because I was there, physically when these > laws > >> were made, dealt with the riots by kiosk owners whose CD's were set > ablaze > >> and them not understanding that what they had done was wrong. They came > up > >> as a result of what we are experiencing in Uganda. The laws were NOT > there > >> before, they were drafted only after people, like you and I, woke up and > >> lobbied the house to enact laws that protect their work. This is what > we > >> have been *screaming* about here. The industry across the border > continued > >> to grow despite the piracy. When it had the muscle to make the noise, it > >> did > >> and laws were put in place. > >> > >> Allow the industry in Uganda to grow as we make *noise* about enacting > >> laws > >> that will protect the works being produced. It makes no sense for us to > >> first stop coming up and implementing brilliant ideas such as Badru's > >> while > >> we wait for a law to be enacted, which may take a long time. > >> > >> Please note that while we may have signed treaties to ensure that > certain > >> copyright laws are upheld from a foreign nation, our priority remains, > as > >> a > >> sovereign nation, with our laws. If no one from the MPAA comes to Uganda > >> to > >> complain about the 40 movies in 1 CD being sold in Kisementi, no one in > >> Uganda will because it is NOT a law here yet. This is NOT condoning the > >> abuse of ones rights, its just that we do not have it in our laws yet. > >> > >> Tim, I'd like to clarify something, no one is disagreeing with you on > IPR > >> and copyrights. What we are trying to point out is this, we do not have > >> any > >> such laws in Uganda that will work like you want them to. We are still > >> developing them. While we develop these laws, we cannot and should not > >> stifle ideas on this basis. We *must* encourage growth of our industry > as > >> we > >> work out the laws. > >> > >> I want my ideas and IP to be protected, but I know very well that with > our > >> current laws, there is little (much improved from the 1964 act) that > will > >> protect me. I *must* continue to have these ideas produced as I and many > >> others lobby for better laws to be enacted. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mike > >> > >> Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in > >> a million chances happen 99% of the time. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LUG mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> > >> LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> All Archives can be found at > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> > >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >> attachments if any). 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